Muslims Clash With Police After Poppy Burning In Anti Armistice Day Protest

It would have been had you not had to have it explained to you.

But I think an important point still stands. You and Graham used the word assimilation whereas surely it is integration that is required. I know you will counter that argument by suggesting that any immigrant is welcome if they live within the law. Equally, many indigenous British citizens choose to live outside the law, as evidenced by overcrowded prisons.

Regards,

kev35

Quite right, my incorrect use of terminology is probably caused by my obsession with the good aliens raised in the missing missile thread. 😀
I am quite sure the Borg would not consider assimilating the Poppy burners as they have to have some charactistics which would prove useful. From where I’m standing they don’t have any redeeming features.

Do you know,i don’t give a rats fig, that a few publicity seeking folk,(who by the way are so convicted that they cover their faces) want to burn poppies.
firstly if it wasnt for a few they wouldn’t have the freedom to do it.
And secondly, and probably most importantly, thank them for their support,because they must have bought a shed load first.

In can only confess to being one of those forumites who left Star Trek behind more years ago than I care to remember.

But in response to your main point, I do, in fact, agree with you. Integration is the better word and, pace Graham, I may have picked up on his use of assimilation. So I will re-phrase my argument: those who want to integrate are and always have been welcome. It is those who have no desire to integrate who are not welcome.

It would have been had you not had to have it explained to you.

But I think an important point still stands. You and Graham used the word assimilation whereas surely it is integration that is required. I know you will counter that argument by suggesting that any immigrant is welcome if they live within the law. Equally, many indigenous British citizens choose to live outside the law, as evidenced by overcrowded prisons.

Regards,

kev35

Ah ha! Well, we got there in the end, didn’t we? Was it worth it?;):D

I think this is the sort of thing Kev had in mind:

“Assimilation

In the Star Trek fictional universe, assimilation is the process by which the Borg integrate beings and cultures into their collective. “You will be assimilated” is one of the few on-screen phrases employed by the Borg when communicating with other species. The Borg are portrayed as having encountered and assimilated thousands of species and billions to trillions of individual life-forms throughout the galaxy.

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“They operate solely toward the fulfilling of one purpose: to “add the biological and technological distinctiveness of other species to [their] own” in pursuit of perfection. This is achieved through forced assimilation, a process which transforms individuals and technology into Borg, enhancing – and simultaneously controlling – individuals by implanting or appending synthetic components”

:confused: But thanks, anyway.;)

No problem….. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg_%28Star_Trek%29

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Care to elaborate?:confused::)

Resistance is futile…… 😀

Since I do not know to what you refer, I do not know whether to take it as a compliment or not………my guess is, not!

You sound like the Borg.

Regards,

kev35

Those who want to assimilate are and always have been welcome. It is those who have no desire to assimilate who are not welcome.

This is of coarse true, invaders in the past have all eventually been assimilated into the general population. My point is that services are stretched, retirement age is going up because pensions cannot be paid and we can all see the thousands of new houses swallowing up green land.
Yet on the other hand there as little control on immigration, over crowding causes social un rest and reduces quality of life for everyone.
There has to be a sensible debate and balance, immigration should match people leaving the country a bit like a car park. When there’s no more room then red light comes on.
This is a tolerant Country, intolerance should be crushed by the law regardless of who gets offended.

Every person currently living in the UK has at some point in their family history an immigrant, they might be second or twenty second generation. If everyone who came to this country tried to be ‘British’ it would be a rather dull place to live. I rather enjoy living in an ethnically diverse area, if only for the food. 🙂

And within reason it is a good idea and rather nice not to offend any minority or majority.

We need to return to unashamed rule of British law and renounce the ECHR, and, if necessary, amend our indigenous human rights legislation.

Can you tell us which specific parts of the ECHR you take exception to?

Have you ever read what the Convention actually says, as opposed to what the likes of the Daily Heil would have you believe it says?

Same thing applies to our own Human Rights legislation, for that matter. Most of what people think they know about the Human Rights Act is utter twaddle.

I do wish people in general would take the trouble to learn about things before they slag them off.

Mind you, that would mean people thinking for themselves instead of having their opinions spoon-fed to them by (largely) foreign-owned mass media with vested commercial interests.

Here endeth the lesson…… 😀

By the way…… there is no such thing as ‘British law’, and there never was. :p

Sadly, as you are probably aware, there is a fear of offending racial “minorities”. After the Lawrence case the police were left emasculated. We need to return to unashamed rule of British law and renounce the ECHR, and, if necessary, amend our indigenous human rights legislation.

If immigrants don’t like it they are free to return from whence they came. If people do not want to assimilate then they should go home. This is not racist. Living as a guest in a foreign country and abusing that hospitality is racist.

There is allot of widespread concern over the mass immigration in recent years by many perfectly sane sensible people, allot of problems are caused by the total lack of sensible debate on the subject, as as soon as anyone raises it they are immediately branded as racist.
Clearly people that have been born in this country have as much right to be here as anyone else, but where is the sense in continuing to allow large numbers who are not EU citizens to enter a small and already overcrowded Country.
The immigration system is rife with abuse and totally out of control, this leads to racial tension and the sort of extremism we witness in the burning of Poppies.
Our forefathers fought to maintain our way of life and our freedoms not to support mass imagration or to protect extremists who aim to destroy our freedoms and are treated with far to much toleration.
Why aren’t these people being arrested and prosecuted for promoting racial hatred?:confused:
Only the other day when that woman was sentenced for stabbing an MP, her supporters chanted “British go to hell” why were there no arrests? this is blatant racism.
As Kev states its for the law to deal with so why isn’t it happening?:confused:
It is foolish not to come down hard and stamp out this sort of behaviour and it is certainly not a small problem.

Touché, Monsieur! 😀

In which case you should know better.

Regards,

kev35