March 23, 2004 at 10:16 am
I thought I’d relate to you the first time I saw a Spitfire flying. It is a day I’ll never forget.
I had seen a static example, TE456, on display in the Auckland War Memorial Museum. It seems forlorn inside that dimly lit concrete room, so had not really caught my imagination.
However I did have a great love of the aircraft, especially having watched ‘A Perfect Lady’ on video about 40 times.
In January 1989 I joined the RNZAF. I was undergoing Basic Training at RNZAF Woodbourne, when Cpl Barbie Collins marched us out onto the parade ground in the styfling summer heat. She said we’d been brought out there to watch something unique, a Spitfire display. We stood there in the blazing sun for about half an hour. It was torture. No Spitfire.
None of us had even heard that a flyable Spit was in the country. We all grew suspicious, thinking it was another of their mind games to taunt us, like so many of the things they do in military training. When we were finally dismissed for lunch, having seen no Spit, we all concluded it was a cruel hoax.
Later a rumour went round that there was a Spit but it had been delayed for some reason. No-one belived this though.
So it was a great pleasure the next day, on returning from the mess after lunch, to hear the sound of a screaming Merlin powering off the deck. It had snuck in while we weren’t looking!
Stephen Grey took a bare metal TB863 into Woodbourne’s skies and ringed her out. We were extatic to see this real flying Spitfire. It was fantastic. Afterwards we all felt so thrilled at what we’d seen, and a little guilty at not believing Cpl Collins.
It was a shock to us all to see the paper a few days later and see it crashed in a paddock. Luckily the old girl was restored (and again later after a second ding) and she’s still flying beautifully.
I got to see much more of TB863 when I was posted to Wigram as Tim would often fly her in for a visit. But that first time at Woody has been etched in my mind.
When was your first flying Spitfire sighting?
By: jbs - 13th October 2011 at 16:15
RAF serial – MA863
RAAF serial – A58-246 (54 Sqn DL-K)
By: VoyTech - 5th April 2004 at 10:36
Originally posted by Tbirdman
PS Voytech: If you can give me the date you took that pic at ILA 92 I can name the P51 pilot for you.
It was the first week of June 1992 I think, but I am not sure if I will be able to check the exact date.
By: Melvyn Hiscock - 1st April 2004 at 10:40
Originally posted by Tbirdman
Late 50’s I had sneaked through a gap in the hedge at the Cardiff(Rhoose) Air Races. Just about everything had launched and indeed the slower ones were already completing their first lap. I recollect my chum punching me in the arm and pointing straight in front of us with his eyes out like organ stops. There, as if in slow motion, was G-AIDN ‘rising’ out of the grass straight towards us with the gear retracting. It was virtually silent at this point but that state of affairs changed the moment it flew over us at about 100′. I HAD NEVER HEARD A SOUND LIKE IT IN ALL MY YOUNG LIFE! I believe the pilot was Viv Bellamy.
So, Tbirdman, you and me share the same aircraft and you went on to fly them
WHERE DID I GO WRONG . . . . .
Joking aside, I used to go and see Viv when he was at Longparish, near Andover, and he was a great character. One of the unsung greats of British Aviation.
Melvyn
By: Tbirdman - 31st March 2004 at 23:44
Late 50’s I had sneaked through a gap in the hedge at the Cardiff(Rhoose) Air Races. Just about everything had launched and indeed the slower ones were already completing their first lap. I recollect my chum punching me in the arm and pointing straight in front of us with his eyes out like organ stops. There, as if in slow motion, was G-AIDN ‘rising’ out of the grass straight towards us with the gear retracting. It was virtually silent at this point but that state of affairs changed the moment it flew over us at about 100′. I HAD NEVER HEARD A SOUND LIKE IT IN ALL MY YOUNG LIFE! I believe the pilot was Viv Bellamy.
I didn’t know quite how but I knew I had to fly one one day. The sky gods have been kind to me.
T
PS Voytech: If you can give me the date you took that pic at ILA 92 I can name the P51 pilot for you.
By: setter - 31st March 2004 at 23:06
Col Pays Scone NSW Australia early1980s
My First one was Col Pays Spit at Scone NSW in the early 1980s after watching it being rebuilt over a few years and it was something to see as we were all anticipating it for so long. It still flies although sadly Col has sold it and it now flies out of Temora Museum. It is now in a Grey Nurse Color scheme with Shark mouth and looks tremendos.
Kindest regards
john Parker
By: Aileron Roll - 31st March 2004 at 11:29
Well done Dave !
I think this was the first Spit I saw fly also, along with the Mark 14 at Wanaka in 1994 (I think !)
Best display I saw was watching Ray Hanna in MH434 at Biggin Hill, I think in about Sept 1997.
By: Dave Homewood - 31st March 2004 at 11:14
I found a photo of my Spit Sit… Warbirds Over Waikato airshow, Hamilton International Airport, 1995
By: VoyTech - 24th March 2004 at 15:09
So, it was not only my first sight of a flying Spitfire, but also first look at the MH434, and the first time I met Mark Hanna.
Some years later he told me that he remembered it well. A guy he had never met has come to him, and asked straight away “Tell me, why is your Spitfire painted this way? It is not correct for a Mk IX.”
By: VoyTech - 24th March 2004 at 15:05
My first Spit sighting was 1992, International Luft- und Raumfahrt Ausstellung (ILA) in Berlin. I with a couple of friends went to Berlin mainly to take photos of latest Russian types. I was busy taking pictures of Sukhoi Su-24 ‘Fencer’ which had its public debut there (and it took some persuasion to make the Russian guys allow us to get across the line and take good close-up pictures). When I heard the Merlins, I simply dropped everything, said something like “I’ll be right back”, and ran towards the runway. Three warbirds arrived: MH434 flown by Rolf Meum, Buchon flown by Mark Hanna and with the P-51 ‘Old Crow’ flown by I don’t know who.
By: DazDaMan - 24th March 2004 at 08:21
My first (and so far only) “Spit sit” was back in the early(ish) 1980s, sitting in the Museum of Flight’s Spitfire XVI TE462 🙂
By: Chris Broad - 24th March 2004 at 03:24
My first ever encounter with a Spitfire was probably with MH434 at a Great Warbirds Air Display, West Malling in the mid eighties. Though one of my most treasured moments with a Spitfire was back in 1997/8 when with the RAF CCF i spent a day marshelling at the Old Hay airshow. At the beginning of the day, early in the morning, my friend Tom, my father (volunteer taxi and helper for the day) and myself were approached by Guy Black (HAC) who needed a hand rolling out his new Spitfire from the hanger to take part in the air display. This of course was Spitfire Mk.Vb BM597 now based at Duxford. I believe it was one of its early public displays, if not it’s first. We rolled it backwards out of the tiny hanger by the wing leading edge with relative ease and parked it up where later in the day it would be joined by Rob Davies’ Mustang (Big Beautiful Doll), a Lysander (i forget which one) and a Hurricane (I think it was Mk.XII Z7381 now also with HAC).
It was a superb day, and i’m sure i could write an essay on it, but i won’t bore you with that just yet!
I did get to fly with Charlie Brown in a Stearman at the end though…… 😀 😀 😀
By: Dave Homewood - 24th March 2004 at 02:53
My Spit Sit
My first and only sit in a Spit was, again, TB863. Having met him several times before, I was having a chat with Sir Tim after he’d done an awesome display at the Wings Over Waikato aishow in Hamilton in 1995, and he invited me to have a sit in it. The late, great display pilot Tom Middleton helped me in and showed me the ropes. I have several photos of this, much treasured.
I had previously sat in Sir Tim’s Corsair while it was stored in the RNZAF Museum’s restoration hangar, and I was rode brakes in his P40 at Wigram when no-one else was around to do it (both a thrill and bloody scary for me as I’d not done it before, not being an aircraft tech), and I had also flown in his TBF Avenger (amazing trip, pics coming soon), but sitting in the Spit was a real special event for me – especially because there were so many envious onlookers at the airshow.
Thanks Sir Tim for such wonderful memories
By: Arabella-Cox - 23rd March 2004 at 22:31
My first Spitfire sighting would have been around the late seventies / early eighties, when something rather noisy flew over our back garden in Potters Bar. It was a good couple of thousand feet up, and heading towards Elstree, which makes me think it was Spencer Flack’s G-FIRE. First (and so far, only) one I sat in was ML427, when she was in at Skysport a few years ago being refurbed prior to going into Birmingham’s Millenium Centre.
By: mmitch - 23rd March 2004 at 21:26
AR 213 at Silverstone in late 1970s. Patrick Lindsey was racing his ERA in Vintage Sports Car Club events. He flew into the track in his Spitfire. Tony Bianchi took it up in the lunch break and beat the s**t out of the track, flying between the grandstands etc. Wonderful. 🙂
mmitch.
By: Bruggen 130 - 23rd March 2004 at 20:20
AB910
My first spitfire was AB910 at Woodford airshow in1969 this was probably one of the first aircraft pics i ever took.
It bl**dy rained at every other airshow there ——:D :D:rolleyes:
Phil.
By: Ant.H - 23rd March 2004 at 20:06
The first Spit I saw fly was the Mk.VIII MT719/I-SPIT at Abingdon in 1990,not long before she was snapped up by Jim Cavanaugh and shipped off to Texas.It was also the first time i’d heard a Merlin “in the flesh”.Saw P7350 later in the same day when the BBMF displayed and landed,luuurvelly. 😀
First time I saw a Spit in any condition was K9994 at the Science Museum,South Kensington sometime in the 80’s,complete with bent prop (!) when I were but a mere whippersnapper. 🙂
By: Dan Johnson - 23rd March 2004 at 17:38
A wannane Spit pilot’s dream….short of a flight in a two seater
I remember it like yesterday. In the cockpit of P7350 at Coltishall. Peter Cowell took the photo
Dan
By: Dan Johnson - 23rd March 2004 at 17:30
P7350, RAF Coltishall during the 41 Squadron reunion in July 1986. I got a chance to get in that Spit during that time and vividly recall coming out of the base chapel memorial service with some of the Pilot vets and having P7350 marked as EB-Z whistle over at low alt.
Chills up and down the spine.
First flyable Spit I saw was AR501 at Duxford in 1980 when I was in England for school, but it didn’t fly the day I saw it.
Dan
Photo is one from the reunion in 86 with P7350 and a 41 Squadron Jaguar
By: Mark V - 23rd March 2004 at 16:28
Hmm, that centre spot on the fuselage roundel looks a little small!
By: DazDaMan - 23rd March 2004 at 16:08
AR213 always has been a favourite since going to see her at Booker, sometime after the Blue Max Museum opened (92?). She was the first Spit that I could touch that was actually flyable, as opposed to slowly collecting dust in a museum!
Still never seen her fly, though! 🙁