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I was in Prague for a few days last week and on the Saturday whilst walking around the wonderful sights an aircraft wandered overhead that I could not identify.
It looked at sounded fairly old, it was a twin with twin tails, my immediate thought was twin pin as it was that size and souded similar, but then I saw the tails thus eliminating that type.It was a scorching hot day and difficult to see any markings , I only had a wide angle lens on the camera and it was at about 1000ft, so no photos either. I would guess something from the 50’s maybe later given that its an ex eastern bloc country which tends not to blaze a technology trail.
Not sure how well, if at all ,historic aviation is supported in the Czech Republic.
I unfortunately did not get to the modern history museum which apparently has some aircraft exhibits, although I don’t know what.
Great place for a short break though.

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By: Zebedee - 13th February 2008 at 13:35

Im pretty sure its not a Princess project, vertical stabilizer is completley wrong, the fuselage doesn’t appear to have the Princess double bubble and the wing aspect ration is to high… However i would lay money on it being a SARO project, the fuselage reminds me of the Duchess jet project which was contemporary to the Princess…

The answer is almost certainly in AE Wagg and Raymond Wheelers “From Sea to Air” Will have a look when I get home…

In the meantime have a look at this thread at the Secret Projects forum about the Princess Rocket Carriers…

Aero Spacelines and the Saro Princess

You’ll need to register to see the (very interesting) images…

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By: Paulbarry - 13th February 2008 at 13:23

Whilst I am not 100% sure, I think this relates to a study in the early sixties that Aero Spacelines (of Guppy fame) did for NASA for the carriage of Saturn V components. This study included a twin Saro Princess proposal.

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By: Fleet Shadower - 13th February 2008 at 11:45

Twin princess

I think that is a model of the projected Saro Twin Princess. There is a line drawing in a recent book of concept aircraft but I can’t find it at the moment. When I can I will post details

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By: whalebone - 21st June 2005 at 00:29

“And Dave wins the ‘warm feeling’ for the day.”

Well that’s the the last time I am going to be subtle with a reply 🙁
I obviously lack the ‘killer instinct’ 😀

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By: mike currill - 20th June 2005 at 21:15

That was a good one, I couldn’t even figure out what the a/c was as I’m not too hot an Japanese float planes.

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By: Manonthefence - 20th June 2005 at 18:00

And now: Mildly annoy MOTF

I feel violated 😀

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By: merlin70 - 20th June 2005 at 13:22

Many things are ridiculous. Flight suits, my spellink, and most of this forum on some days.

I resemble that remark! 🙁

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By: Dave Homewood - 20th June 2005 at 11:43

I had not seen the website you linked before and found it of interest, thanks James. Not a bad quiz too. I was fortunate in having an incling from reading something about this plane before while looking for something about the Orion.

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By: Andy in Beds - 20th June 2005 at 11:42

Well, I got as far as working out the serial should have been on a Battle.
It’s amazing what can be found in the archives of these Government quangoes. 🙂 😉 🙂

Our section on Japanase floatplanes is out of bound to engineers under senior grade though.

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By: JDK - 20th June 2005 at 11:33

Perhaps I should have said ‘if you’ve seen the website, give the others a go’.

Objectives of JDK quiz:

1. Defeat Mike J

2. Amuse others 😉

3 And now: Mildly annoy MOTF

Many things are ridiculous. Flight suits, my spellink, and most of this forum on some days.

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By: Manonthefence - 20th June 2005 at 11:22

James

If I knew the answer I would post it here. A quiz which you cant answer if you know the answer is ridiculous

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By: Dave Homewood - 20th June 2005 at 10:56

And Dave wins the ‘warm feeling’ for the day.

Thanks James, I needed that, it is bleedin cold here right now!

Wow, I actually won a quiz! And earlier this evening I completed the TV Guide crossword in one sitting. I’m on a roll…

Now, the thing I want to know most is, was the Arado 96 they lost also disguised I wonder?

As we are disgussing interesting enemy floatplanes that raided NZ waters, some may be interested in this on our RNZAF forum if you’ve not already seen it.
http://rnzaf.proboards43.com/index.cgi?board=Wartime&action=display&thread=1109409341

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By: JDK - 20th June 2005 at 10:48

And Dave wins the ‘warm feeling’ for the day.

Photo from here: http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/carriers/odd/index4.htm

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By: JDK - 20th June 2005 at 10:46

Whalebone knows…

Still no PM from MOTF tho.

It would be quite the cake decoration, but it’s not.

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By: Dave Homewood - 20th June 2005 at 10:45

My guess, Nakajima E8N Naval Scout from the German raider ship Orion, Pacific, 1941 or 1942

The ship lost its Arado floatplane and got this from the Japs. It was painted in RN colours to fool people, and the serial is bogus because it is a Fairey battle serial

An interesting story, and the boat interests me as it sunk many NZ ships in our waters. The RNZAF was helpless to find it, and TEAL was called in to do long range patrols in its Empire Flying Boats to try and find the Orion, but never did.

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By: whalebone - 20th June 2005 at 10:39

The aeroplane was not built by the country whose markings it carries, neither was it made by the country that built and crewed the ship (named after a well known astronomical constellation ?)

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By: Mark12 - 20th June 2005 at 10:08

Blackburn Marzipan?

Marzipan (and icing sugar) – full size cake decoration for the Admiral’s birthday cake?

Mark

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By: JDK - 20th June 2005 at 09:30

Yeah. Thought that’d get you and MikeJ 😀 Chiz.

Just let some others have a pla, eh?

Do you know? If so you can PM me…

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By: Manonthefence - 20th June 2005 at 09:28

Ah a quiz that, if you know the answer, you cant enter…….logical!!!

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By: Bruggen 130 - 22nd November 2004 at 19:35

Hi.
Some pics an text from a book (US Bombers) by LLOYD S. JONES.
Hope it’s some help.
Phil 🙂

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