Mystery Fuselage

Auster Aircraft J-1-U Workmaster, c/n 3501
F-OBHT ?
F-WJAS ?
F-BJAS reg 04.05.1960 Mont Blanc Aviation, Passy
Four bw photos here: http://austerhg.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=4292

F-BJAS reg 06.12.1966 Moret Roger, Le Fayet

maybe till 09.05.1979

Some wonderfully atmospheric shots you have come up with there, wieesso, of the Workmaster on Mont Blanc, seemingly confirming what the Museum staff told me of the rescue missions it helped with. Hope someone will in turn do a rescue job on the aircraft itself as it would be good to see it airborne again. How on earth do you manage to keep on finding these gems?

Looks as if the aircraft has had a pretty varied working career and presumably before that it was used as a crop sprayer/duster in North Africa.

Any other known survivors, apart from long-term Namur resident G-APSR and the UK-based G-APMH?

Wicked Willip :diablo:

Sounds like it should go back to France!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes it was F-WJAS pics available
yes it was at La fayet alongside my hornet Moth until kicked out to make hangar a roller skating rink
then stored behind hotel along the road

Auster Aircraft J-1-U Workmaster, c/n 3501
F-OBHT ?
F-WJAS ?
F-BJAS reg 04.05.1960 Mont Blanc Aviation, Passy
Four bw photos here: http://austerhg.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=4292

F-BJAS reg 06.12.1966 Moret Roger, Le Fayet

maybe till 09.05.1979

Correctly identified, Tim, but what of its history as F-BJAS?

I saw it a couple of months back at the Wings Museum in Sussex, still dismantled but fuselage now fabric covered, and was told it had just over 100 Alpine rescue missions to its name.

As it is in the same ownership as Messenger G-AGOY was before it recently came up for sale, I wonder if it will likewise be offered for sale in the future as it seems a prime candidate for restoration bearing in mind it no longer fits in with the Museum’s current criteria.

Wicked Willip:diablo:

Auster Workmaster G-OJAS at Shoreham?

Tim

Less Common Post-1939 Transport Aircraft

I’ve launched the above thread as as spin-off from this interesting quiz…. it was the French types in the Flight report from the 1949 Paris show that caught my attention

Mystery fuselage FW 200 Condor not Languedoc

I think its definitely the same photo as in Flight Dec 13 1937….I did earlier wonder if it was a Leduc launch vehicle Languedoc because of the plate on the inner roof of the photo in post#1 but as I said the support posts would have gone right through the fuselage (was there only one Languedoc converted?…theres a section and superb model in the Le Bourget museum)

The Condor and Languedoc were only about as wide as the DC-3 I would say

If you’re into old prop interiors there’s a pic of the Ju 90(a fatter aircraft) in Flight Sep13 1937

and on this link a photo(click for large) of the Lufthansa Condor which flew Berlin-NY nonstop 70 years ago

http://www.flightglobal.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?search=berlin+new+york&IncludeBlogs=104

I’m still not wholly convinced by FW-200, it looks more like a Languedoc in fusalage section.
Not sure what Longshot is talking about , there were many Languedocs built, only one was converted as a launch platform.

I have an interior photo of a Viking that clearly shows the spar passing through the main cabin.

I am still not sure what it is from these posts:confused:

Yes, you’re right about the spar I’ve just checked the Varsity AP.

John

…….I am still not sure what it is from these posts:confused:

No – it took a bit of working out :confused:
Basically, John Aeroclub (post 15) says he found an article in 1937 “Flight” about the Fw 200 with the same photograph as posted in post 1 🙂

Roger Smith.

No, the spar goes under the floor in a Viking/Valletta

John

I have an interior photo of a Viking that clearly shows the spar passing through the main cabin.

I am still not sure what it is from these posts:confused:

Silver City Breguet Provence (‘Deux Ponts’) 1953

http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1953/1953%20-%200943.html?search=silver%20city%20breguet

a search silver city breguet in flight global archive should give an account and pic of the Deux Ponts used Hamburg-Templehof after the military Berlin Airlift

True. Are there any of them still preserved/airworthy?

Certainly not Halifax/Halton. The answer is already known, so no more speculation necessary.

Cees

Maybe not how about Halton or Lancastrian? On second thoughts from experience of the Shackleton that main spar doesn’t look high enough for a Lancatrian. I’ve never seen insida a Halifax/Halton I don’t know about them.

Mystery Solved!

Thanks for all your efforts!

Answer to a post above…..Yes Silver City leased a Breguet Deaux Points

condor not languedoc

John aeroclub’s right of course….

http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1937/1937%20-%203554.html

It’s a FW200

Fair points, John Aeroclub and Atcham Tower, so back to the drawing board.
Google search of Fw-200 cabin produced this, seemingly from a recent Berlin show – presumably someone’s recreation. Looks possible, with the step up over the spar and the door offset to the right.
I suspect the original pictures been taken from quite low down rather than eye level, which makes the interior look bigger than it really is.
Apologies if I’ve trampled on anyone’s copyright, BTW.

I compared Scouse’s door with the original photo, and then I remembered a flight article and I found the same photo on page 625 of Flight Dec 23 1937.

John