Mystery OTU Commander Doing Aerobatics

I have a record of the Chief Ground Instructor at 13 OTU, Bicester, being killed when his Avro Tutor, K8171, crashed inverted during aerobatics on 23rd Nov 1941. I don’t know if this is your man.
S/Ldr Murray James TULLY, 39911, RAF. Buried Morningside Cemetery, Edinburgh. Age 25.
The passenger was also killed.
F/Lt Roger Arnold HENDERSON, 83932, RAFVR. Cremated at Oxford Crematorium.
Regards,
Doug.

The irony of a ‘Ground Instructor’ flying into it would be funny if it wasn’t so tragic.

Moggy

^^^^^^^  You may be better PM ing her as people very rarely look at these threads now.

Emma –  sorry, I didn’t see this until now.  Sure, let me know your email and I can fill in what I know

Hello im Emma Tully and im actually related to Murray james tully. Im currently trying to research my ancestry. Tully… you say he was your grandfather, if you are there may I give you my email and we could discuss our connection. 

Thank you

Thanks – it sound like there was more than one such sad occurence, here noted at 13OTU and at 59 OTU.
My granfather was the one on 23 November 1941 and the 13 OTU at Bicester is correct I think.
The story is made more poignent by the fact that my grandmother gave birth on 24 November 1941 and was confined in Bicester when it happened. Perhaps there had been a good night in the mess the evening before.

So, mystery solved. So, he did his routine for a month, maybe more and then his luck ran out. Sad stuff.

Hurricane V6998 ?

Yeah, I know!

Course No.7 with the 8 Norwegians started on 18/08/41 and ended on 30/09/41.

Regards
Ross

If it was No.59 OTU then it would be W/C D P A Boitel-Gill DFC O/C Flying Wing who was killed on 18/09/41.

Regards
Ross

The date fits 100%

If it was No.59 OTU then it would be W/C D P A Boitel-Gill DFC O/C Flying Wing who was killed on 18/09/41.

Regards
Ross

The story sounds consistent with what I know from family stories – the chap involved was my grandfather.
Can I ask where it the record was obtained which you read to start the thread? Obviously, I would be interested in seeing it.
Thanks

Svein Heglund, Norwegian top scorer. Translation as follows;

59 OTU

The station commander was a former BoB pilot, and as the commanding officer, he had the freedom to do a bit as he pleased. He started each morning with an aerobatic show, usually in low altitude. As sergeants, we never met him. From what I could understand (from his flying) he had some personal problems he wanted to get rid of. His show could also have been his way of dealing with last years intense fighting. We always waited with excitement for him to start his show, and we usually heard him coming in with a gigantic roar, followed by shaking walls and roofs. I think he might have felt it was his duty to always do a “better show” than the last one. But, one day he could not continue on improving his show. He had met his limit. It all ended in disaster.

from “Ancestry”

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Murray J Tully
Name: Murray J Tully
Birth Date: abt 1916
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1941
Age at Death: 25
Registration district: Ploughley
Inferred County: Oxfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 2214

The story sounds consistent with what I know from family stories – the chap involved was my grandfather.
Can I ask where it the record was obtained which you read to start the thread? Obviously, I would be interested in seeing it.
Thanks