By: Mr Merry - 28th February 2013 at 18:23
I have just watched this very interesting documentry on Typhoons, it covers the ‘querks’ of the Sabre quite well.
By: ZRX61 - 28th February 2013 at 17:41
That’s the (sectioned) one that ended up at Dx Mike… or at least that’s what I’m lead to believe.
By: Mike J - 28th February 2013 at 17:39
Is there still one in the Cambridge University Dept of Engineering?
By: Arabella-Cox - 28th February 2013 at 17:22
Mr Oliver/Sabre
I don’t know Mr. Oliver, nor have I met him but I understand that he is an avid collector of aero-engine machinery so I wouldn”t be surprised.
If he has, it would be interesting to know where he got it and even more, whether he will, like he has done with his other engines, get it running:cool:
Anon.
By: Spartabus - 28th February 2013 at 16:20
I heard a rumour that Mr Oliver of Oliver Valves had said that he has one in storage in Knutsford
…….. however following accounts of dealings with Mr Oliver from a member of my family, I would take that with a large shovel of salt. :diablo:
By: suthg - 27th February 2013 at 22:31
Thanks Anon – yes the Eagle 22 (from the Eagle 11) was a very capable beast right from the start in Dec 46 with some changes to the sleeve drives I believe from the Halford Sabre, but it was a 46L huge engine cf the 37L of the Sabre and 27L of the Merlin. But again, cf the Sabre, it was very heavy at 1.8T vs the 1.1T of the Sabre.
Very neat photos though of a wonderful model of the Sabre – so accurate in detail and looking so real!
Graeme
By: DaveR - 27th February 2013 at 21:31
I actually messaged before even they did…but nothing so far
By: David Burke - 27th February 2013 at 21:25
I think Fantasy of Flight were pretty quick off the mark on that one!
By: DaveR - 27th February 2013 at 20:49
anyone managed to get in touch with Dennis on wix about the Sabre parts? I have been trying but no reply (hopefully busy and will get back soon…)
By: Arabella-Cox - 27th February 2013 at 19:52
Sabre (model)
Further to the post by DaveR (No. 47) regarding the Wyvern, the early ones had the Rolls-Royce Eagle until it was cancelled. The Eagle shared the same layout as the Sabre being a flat H-configuration, 24 cylinders and sleeve valved.
It was a fabulous engine which, unlike the Sabre, had very few production problems and was cleared for flight very quickly. Such a pity it was cancelled.
Back on to Sabres: here’s a few pictures of one belonging to a friend in deepest Lancashire. Only trouble is, it’s only 18 ins long being a wooden manufacturer’s model (note it is sitting on a window sill). Still, gives you some idea of the external complexity of the beast.
Anon.
By: Arabella-Cox - 27th February 2013 at 19:23
See? you never know whats out there!
Never doubted that, GrahamF…..! Although sometimes one has to have doubts. Just sometimes! 😉
By: pobjoy pete - 27th February 2013 at 19:17
Sabre project
Imagine turning up at the LAA office Turweston with a Sabre on a trailer and asking them to recommend a suitable project to use it !
By: pobjoy pete - 27th February 2013 at 19:14
Sabre Tempest/Typhoon
A Sabre running in both aircraft types would have made an unforgetable spectacle for the 2012 Olympics opening ceremony.Plus a H&S doing a dummy scramble.
By: GrahamF - 27th February 2013 at 18:37
See? you never know whats out there!
By: Arabella-Cox - 27th February 2013 at 18:27
Wow!
By: Sage the Owl - 27th February 2013 at 17:53
Interesting parts find in the Netherlands.
http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=48906
By: G-ORDY - 23rd January 2013 at 22:53
MN235 film footage from 1945
MN235 (and EN474) appears a couple of minutes into this quite remarkable film taken at Freeman Field, Indiana, in 1945.
MN235 is at 1:33 (bottom of frame) and EN474 is at 1:15, 4:59 & 6:39.
Its just a fleeting glimpse but you can see the cowlings and prop are off the Typhoon.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1723870789084
BTW – If anyone has an leads on tools, manuals or anything else that could help Andy Salter rebuild Kermit’s Sabre to airworthy condition I’d be happy to pass them on. He was putting out feelers when I was there last week.
By: DaveR - 5th January 2013 at 01:50
from a hastings…possibly the props aswell. I believe all the engine cowls were made by the apprectices, including the radiator
By: Mike J - 5th January 2013 at 01:46
I believe it has a spinner from a Beverley (?) and a home-made top cowling. At least we have it, thanks to the foresight of the Smithsonian in saving it when all the UK examples were chopped up for beer cans after the war. 🙁
By: DaveR - 4th January 2013 at 19:06
well I say going up the queue….I am not privvy to anything in particular just that she has been there a long time whilst others have been restored in front of her, Tempest for instance.
I saw in the cockpit and it is almost complete (except for remote contactor if I remember correctly). There is no radiator (cut down truck radiator) but all other parts that were missing when received were either drawn from stores or remanufactured by apprentices (cowlings). I am sure the RAF museum have an idea of the condition of the spars and tubes etc but I am afraid I do not know.
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