February 1, 2008 at 11:36 pm
NEAM are ardent followers of the NAHR, listing the categories on our website, however I understand that the Register is in the process of being updated by the BAPC. As the last one was published about 2002, it’s probably overdue but what information should it really contain? How would you like to see aircraft being categorised? The last edition had 3 headings, Benchmark , Significant and Noteworthy. Are these enough?
There was no mention of important aircraft that are at risk. I was puzzled as to why they didn’t feature under a separate heading. Should they?
What do others think?
By: Nashio966 - 23rd April 2010 at 15:02
Rang the chap listed on the website (Brian Dixon)
Smashing chap! It sounds as if 963 now meets the criteria for the list, but as you say too late to be included in this year’s revision. However he did say that there would be a 2011 revision of the list.
Fingers crossed WR963 will be in it!
Cheers
Ben
By: TwinOtter23 - 23rd April 2010 at 14:48
I would – but I’m not sure whether you’d get into the next publication, which sounds imminent!
By: Nashio966 - 23rd April 2010 at 14:46
As of the First of may, she will, Would it be worth emailing and enquiring about it?
By: TwinOtter23 - 23rd April 2010 at 14:43
Interesting question!
One of the opening comments reads – “The National Aviation Heritage Register includes all airframes held by organisations that are open to the public on a regular basis – defined as at least weekends throughout the summer months without the need for prior arrangement. etc etc”
So would WR963 qualify? :confused:
By: Nashio966 - 23rd April 2010 at 14:37
Cheers for that chap!
Not that i know anything about this thing, but should WR963 be on the register?
By: TwinOtter23 - 23rd April 2010 at 14:31
There are 3 categories:
National Benchmark (top listing possible)
Significant
Noteworthy
NAM has aircraft in each category see here!
Hopefully when the new NAHR is published they will have further additions to the National Benchmark category; this will be due to the aircraft that went under cover in Hangar 2 having their status elevated. 🙂
WR963 wasn’t on the 2001 edition – but 7 others were listed!
By: Nashio966 - 23rd April 2010 at 14:27
What are the classifications for the list?
I see significant and noteworthy on newarks website?
Is WR963 on the list?
By: TwinOtter23 - 23rd April 2010 at 13:57
I saw the interview in front of the rather smart red JP as well!
As for the NAHR, we’ll have to try and get the Jaguar cockpit added as well! 😀
By: Lindy's Lad - 23rd April 2010 at 13:54
and getting back on the topic… XM355, the silver JP (which is important enough to be on the register) is undergoing a deep strip, which is why it looks like a bag of crap…..
By: TwinOtter23 - 23rd April 2010 at 13:51
I agree – a credit to all involved in their training! 🙂
By: Lindy's Lad - 23rd April 2010 at 13:45
they were given a brief on what they were doing at least 5 minutes before he wandered in. Good effort for the kids, I say!
By: TwinOtter23 - 23rd April 2010 at 13:38
It sounds as though some of your students went ‘off message’ – congratulations to the instructors for teaching such excellent skill sets!! 😀
IMHO a bit of a strange place to visit, when you’re advocating getting rid of RDAs! :confused:
By: Lindy's Lad - 23rd April 2010 at 13:34
Thats because I was hiding….
By: TwinOtter23 - 23rd April 2010 at 13:33
Sounds good – I didn’t see you on the ‘Live News Broadcast’ that’s just gone out on the BBC!! :diablo:
By: Lindy's Lad - 23rd April 2010 at 13:26
I have it on good authority that the new version is about to be published. That said, the secretary is more than willing to respond to direct requests for a copy.
By: mark_pilkington - 23rd April 2010 at 11:58
Lindy’s Lad Follow the instructions on the BAPC website and contact the secretary…..
We are undertaking a Significance assessment here in Australia and the BAPC Secretary was kind enough to send a hard copy via mail, I cannot comment on ongoing availability but obviously for bonefide requests there may still be a small number of existing editions available from the same source?
regards
Mark Pilkington
By: TwinOtter23 - 23rd April 2010 at 08:41
galdri,
Somewhere amongst this search http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/search.php?searchid=2797516 you may find details, because in the past I have posted some explanations about how the NAHR works.
The concept / methodology cover about 6 pages and the detailed listing about 50 pages. However LL’s suggestion is the best one, but they might be out of print. The new version should have been printed months ago!
All that said I’m still a great believer in the NAHR – especially as it helped NAM secure £453,000 from the Heritage Lottery Fund towards the cost of building Hangar 2; the balance of funding circa £100,000 being raised by the museum volunteers and staff! 🙂
By: Lindy's Lad - 23rd April 2010 at 07:40
Follow the instructions on the BAPC website and contact the secretary…..
By: TwinOtter23 - 4th February 2008 at 21:20
I had another look through the register as I was concerned about this alleged military dominance.:confused:
So I’ve just done a quick check through the approx 320 types of aircraft covered in the 2001 NAHR; Sad or what? 😮 [Note to self get some work done!!]
Civilian types listed – 101 [32%]
Military types listed – 174 [54%]
Joint military / civil types listed – 45 [14%]
IMHO not a bad split when you consider a lot of aviation development is driven by the military applications.
Admittedly when you look at the total number of military airframes the percentage would be more in their favour.
Nevertheless the civilian component is not left out!
By: Lindy's Lad - 4th February 2008 at 20:55
Twin – the register reflects preservation. The preservation of aircraft in the U.k is overwelmingly military . Any new register will just reflect this again.
This is an issue that preservation as a whole needs to address in the U.K
The register reflects museum preservation….
View this thread as a way of addressing any shortfalls in the register itself. Some useful things have come to light already….:D Perhaps this is a way in which ‘internet preservationists’ can REALLY change things for the better….
The fact that the average restorer has more opportunity to preserve military aircraft than civillian ones is perhaps not an indication of how biased we are, but more a reflection of the hardships faced when restoring / storing / maintaining civillian types….. as well as the cost of the average airliner!