National/European Flight Sim & Aviation Show – Blackpool 2004

It include the intial application form which is graded and then those who meet their ‘points’ target are invited for stage 2 which is the Compass test. This is basicall a maths test, physics test and nine hand eye coordination tests as well as a personality assesment. A few weeks later if successful you will be invited to stage three which is a team building and interview day. This consists of two team building excercises in the morning and a formal interview in the afternoon. If successful then you move on to the final stage which is a sim check and yet another maths test and then a debrief!

Hope that helps 🙂

Originally posted by martin_EGTK
By getting through the selection process 😀

What does this include then? Help some wannabes here out 😀

Ryanair pay pilots an appalling basic salary, around £14,000 for a First Officer, however their sector pay is very good indeed which means that First Officers get paid around £36,000 in their first year. However, pilots are expected to pay for their own type rating (£18,000), their own uniform and staff travel if they are not in uniform.

There is also some grumbling at Ryanair at the moment as they have frozen pay rises for this year.

Wasnt there a whole thing about Ryanairs pay. Something about the fact that although pilots were paid an OK salary they had to pay the airline for other things (like deadheading and other things). Anyone know anything?

By getting through the selection process 😀

How did you get in to OAT?

Jobs are extremely hard to come by as you say, it does look like the industry is finally starting to pick up now however. The majority of decent low hours pilots that are available from schools such as OAT, BAE and CCAT are expected to get jobs within the next eight to ten months, obviously this does not mean everyone is going to get employment, it takes a lot more than just having the license to get a job but things are picking up.

I’ve been in contact with around 50 airlines over the past month and I’ve had very positive replies from most, so fingers crossed things will be ok. I know around 16 OAT candiates who have got jobs in the last month so it’s certainly starting to pick up. We’ve also just had two airlines, one extremely big one commiting to take on all suitible APP (Airline Preparation Program) students from January next year, so things are looking quite good at the moment.

With the amount of aircraft people are buying you are bound to get a job sooner than later Id say. I mean look at the hundred odd easy A319s still to be delviered. They will need pilots!

Ryanair have still got a waiting list of 738s and they are one of the best in terms of pay….

Originally posted by martin_EGTK
LOL, fair enough mate, but it’s not a couple of years, it’s about 10 more months 😀

Fingers crossed mate! I know you know jobs aren’t there to walk into. A mate of mine came out of OATS approx 18 months ago, and had several jobs, incl working with me in Ops before he got the fone call from Monarch to go on the A320 courses. Sadly these got persponed and then cancelled so he is now back out looking! I know several like this and i hope you all get onto what you want after such a huge outlay both finacially and timewise!

DId it to me as well. Myself and Mark went to Brum and were threatened if Bob saw us he would ban us!!!!! What happened to friendly compeititon!

Yeah, Bob is bad news sadly, nice guy, but really the way he’s acted towards Mark isn’t acceptable.

Martin I kept out of peoples convos about the rumors as i have met Mark and we are united against Bob (er u might know who i am talking about) who would seem to be trying to push his show etc out of the way for his show!

I do not doubt motives etc and i think this is THE BEST SHOW to go to. Way better than the Birmingham one!

LOL, fair enough mate, but it’s not a couple of years, it’s about 10 more months 😀

[i]As I said I’ll be there both as a real world aviation professional with Oxford Aviation Training and as a sim enthusiast with my company EMAtch. [/B]

I thought professionals earned money out of their occupations 😉 – give it a couple of years mate and then you will be a pro!

The show is run by Mark Silcock, a good friend of mine, his intentions behind the show are purely to put together a great FS event to bring aviation professionals and flight sim fans together. He isn’t in it to make any money, he’s just a pilot who also enjoys flight sim and wants to celebrate this by putting together a fun weekend.

Mark’s a top chat, the only motive behind this is to bring people to Blackpool to have fun and enjoy their hobby whilst also meeting the professionals and possibly even entering the real world industry. As I said I’ll be there both as a real world aviation professional with Oxford Aviation Training and as a sim enthusiast with my company EMAtch.

When you enter the show you will checkin at an Airline checkin desk and recieve a board pass for the show. You will also recieve a bag of goodies.

Best FS Show in UK….it would seem.

Lots of rumors going around the FS community about this show and motives behind it and who exactly runs it as there is alot of confusion. I am not getting involved in rumors etc but i must say this would appear to be the best show in Europe for people who want to get into FS!

cheers for that link – might have to look into that one!

19th & 20th June

http://www.fs2004nationalshow.com/

when is it ???

Yep, my company (EMAtch Simulations) is working with Holidayzone in organising the show and we’ll be there selling our software. I’ll also be there with Oxford Aviation Training…they want to show of their best pilot 😀 j/k!