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Navy ships (Plymouth Sound)

On holiday i saw these ships sail passed. They were returning to Devonport on the Plymouth Sound. Anyone know which ships they are (without looking checking on a website first)?

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By: Moggy C - 23rd July 2012 at 07:31

Thanks, I know about Sackville and would love to include her on a trip to Canada to see RAF Penhold, where Dad spent some of his war. Well done Canucks.

The saddest thing I learned recently is that ‘Compass Rose’ from The Cruel Sea movie went to the breakers yard before the film premièred. 🙁

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By: 19K11 - 23rd July 2012 at 04:30

The Japanese have blurred things even further with thier 17000 ton full length flight deck destroyers.

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By: paul178 - 22nd July 2012 at 22:42

Sorry I forgot to add this as well

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By: paul178 - 22nd July 2012 at 22:38

Just for Moggy, at least the Canadians saved this

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By: TonyT - 22nd July 2012 at 22:24

It’s an even bigger pity so few of today’s ships survive either.

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By: Creaking Door - 22nd July 2012 at 21:35

A great pity that so few WW2 era ships survive; and a great pity that there is so little interest in preserving ships generally. 🙁

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By: Moggy C - 22nd July 2012 at 21:19

Many thanks 🙂

I was always a great fan of the Tribals (Fleet Destroyers) and, of course, the Flower Class Corvettes

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By: Creaking Door - 22nd July 2012 at 19:30

Historically the difference was in their role and this translated, usually, into a difference in size; destroyers being bigger than frigates.

Destroyers were originally ‘torpedo-boat destroyers’ and were designed to provide fast, small ships, armed with quick-firing smaller-calibre guns, to provide a screen for the dreadnaught battleships from enemy torpedo-boats.

Before WW2 destroyers had evolved into bigger, longer ranged, general-purpose ships mounting dual-purpose guns and depth-charges to protect the fleet and merchant ship convoys from enemy ships, submarines and, later, aircraft.

Modern destroyers are principally anti-aircraft ships with a secondary anti-submarine role; they carry long-range anti-aircraft missiles to protect a group of warships from aircraft (or missile) attack.

Modern frigates are principally anti-submarine ships although they do carry short-range anti-aircraft missiles (and / or guns) for self-protection. Both destroyers and frigates usually carry a helicopter that is the principal anti-submarine system although ship-borne anti-submarine homing torpedoes are also usually carried.

Since before the Falklands, in the Royal Navy at least, the size distinction has become blurred; the Type-22 frigate having a greater displacement than the Type-42 destroyer for example. Much of this was politically motivated; the Royal Navy attempting to fool the Treasury into allowing funding for ‘cheaper’ frigates rather than expensive destroyers!

Modern destroyers are very big by WW2 standards; the new Royal Navy Type-45 destroyer being as big as a WW2 cruiser.

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By: Moggy C - 22nd July 2012 at 16:59

What’s the actual difference between a Frigate and a Destroyer?

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By: Tony at BH - 19th July 2012 at 23:00

Many thanks guys.

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By: blackcat54 - 19th July 2012 at 21:56

F213 FGS Augsburg

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By: paul178 - 19th July 2012 at 19:26

Easy
With whats left of the Royal navy I know the numbers off by heart

F235 HMS MONMOUTH Type 23 Frigate

D97 HMS EDINBURGH Type 42 Destroyer

F213 German Frigate in the spirit of fairness I did not look her up but she is a Bremen class ship

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