January 15, 2004 at 6:07 pm
Newcastle is in chaos at the moment, heavy snow is falling and a/c are diverting.
By: EGNM - 19th January 2004 at 00:00
Originally posted by wysiwyg
Well said Preston but Cat 2 is 300 meters (550m is Cat 1).
Finger trouble – should know that as our 748s have never been cat 2!
By: steve rowell - 18th January 2004 at 04:43
It’s -40 in Boston, Now that’s cold
By: wysiwyg - 17th January 2004 at 20:32
Well said Preston but Cat 2 is 300 meters (550m is Cat 1).
By: EGNM - 17th January 2004 at 13:41
Divert or hold…
The financial penalties of holding and hoping for a break in the Weather are sometimes worth hanging about for over diverting. A diversion incures cost on bussing pax, handling, refuelling at an airfield possably not on a company account, positioning an aircraft back to where required, possable canx return leg = refunding pax… etc etc. For the freight flights such as mail movements companies dont get paid if they dont launch flights, unless the customer tells them otherwise. Belfast is a good evample. As one of our paper flights was about to depart at 0045 the fog came in off the lake – airfield closed, fog 100m on a Cat2 rwy = 550m RVR to land legally. Capt chose to have a crack and Divert to Dub if required so the papers could be roaded as per the customer may request. Another flight from CVT also choses to have a go – both get there around the same time, just as the RVRs pop up to 1100m, both get in and out ok. 3 hours later the fog has been up and down. We lauch another flight and hear that BFS is again fogbound with a B733 in the hold which cant land. Capt elects to have a look and divert back to LPL if required. En-route weather looks like it might be improving and as he is ready to have a crack the fog comes in (B733 already Div by this time to LPL) – so he too comes back to LPL – some its worth hanging about for – some it aint!
By: Britannia - 15th January 2004 at 20:20
BE433 is due back at NCL at 20.15
By: Britannia - 15th January 2004 at 19:35
Have all flights been diverted to Teeside?
Only BE433 and KL965 have gon to Teeside, the rest have landed or approching
By: LGKR - 15th January 2004 at 19:29
wannabe – i believe aircraft are legally entitled to hold so much extra fuel in their payload to allow for long-ish holds over airports (incase of emergency, weather etc). also add the fact that they will have had .wx reports available to them at the time of despatch they have made extra allowances. someonelse may have some better knowledge on this!?!
By: EasyJet737 - 15th January 2004 at 19:22
Have all flights been diverted to Teeside?
😮
By: wannabe pilot - 15th January 2004 at 19:21
All those flights ‘holding overhead’. How long can they do that for? Isn’t it more sensible just to divert?
We had about an hour of quite heavy snow yesterday around 4pm, but as it had been raining, the ground was wet and it didn’t settle. Shame, when it happened last year I got 2 days off school because all the roads were blocked 😀
By: LGKR - 15th January 2004 at 19:20
Originally posted by Britannia
Could be a BE DH-Dash8 or a KLM F100, they have been diverted to Teesside
was definitely a jet of some description, still above!!
By: EAL_KING - 15th January 2004 at 19:12
you are so lucky having snow here in swindon no snow what so ever did have some last week though i wish it would snow but tonight its going to snow all over england down to south of birmingham and tomorow snow in east
By: Britannia - 15th January 2004 at 19:07
funnily enough, i can hear at least one aircraft overhead just havnt got a cat in hells chance of seeing it!!
Could be a BE DH-Dash8 or a KLM F100, they have been diverted to Teesside
By: EAL_KING - 15th January 2004 at 19:07
departures:
BE434 BELFAST CITY 1825 INDEFINATELY DELAYED
KL966 AMSTERDAM 1850 FLIGHT CANCELLED
arrivals:
6G851 LIVERPOOL & CARDIFF 1710 HOLDING OVERHEAD
BE433 BELFAST CITY 1745 FLIGHT DIVERTED
EZY6426 PARIS CDG 1745 HOLDING OVERHEAD
KL965 AMSTERDAM 1810 FLIGHT DIVERTED
BA1336 LONDON HEATHROW 1825 HOLDING OVERHEAD
EZY6442 ALICANTE 1915 EXPECTED AT 1915
EZY287 LONDON STANSTED 1920 HOLDING OVERHEAD
By: LGKR - 15th January 2004 at 18:59
funnily enough, i can hear at least one aircraft overhead just havnt got a cat in hells chance of seeing it!! must have been circling overhead for at least half an hour (thats half an hour after it took me one hour fifteen minutes to travel 1.7 miles lol)
the weather in the north east has gone crazy guys, got 5 inches of snow here in little under 3 hours – MAD I TELL YOU, MAD!!!
By: Britannia - 15th January 2004 at 18:25
By: Britannia - 15th January 2004 at 18:24
The airport has now been closed till 19.30:eek:
By: Hand87_5 - 15th January 2004 at 18:07
BIQ is just perfect 14°C and sunny 😀