June 22, 2012 at 5:42 am
Why is the tail (vertical and horizontal stabilizers) of an aircraft so necessary? I realize that, somehow (explanation needed), the wing forces the front down, and so the horizontal stabilizer acts like an upside-down wing, but what about the vertical stabilizer and how does the wing force the front of the jet back, especially if the wing is in the front of the plane? I know for a fact that once either stabilizer is gone, or worse both, hope of recovery is pretty much impossible. Thank you so much for a response!
By: VeeOne - 27th June 2012 at 22:31
It seems we humans stick to what we know works. It took a new war for us to go over to monoplanes. The unstallable canard design is far superior (from a safety pov) than the standard arrangement yet light aircraft continue to be designed as per the known arrangement.
By: Deskpilot - 24th June 2012 at 07:16
This is not an example of Commercial Aviation but the concept has been around for some time (passengers in the wings). It does, however, prove that an aircraft does not need a an ‘Empennage’ (tail feathers) to fly, and fly with pitch stability without computer aids.
Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to3_zToZrLA&feature=player_embedded#!
By: J Boyle - 24th June 2012 at 01:19
Which needs a lot of computers to fly it. It’s still unstable. If one or two computers fail, the Pilots either punch out or check out.
But the same layout was used in the pre-computer age with thesmall Northrop proof of concept twin, XB-35 and YB-49.
Both bombers were unstable, but they flew well enough to get a small order (which was cancelled).
So it’s not just computers that make flying wings possible.
By: Bmused55 - 23rd June 2012 at 12:59
Which needs a lot of computers to fly it. It’s still unstable. If one or two computers fail, the Pilots either punch out or check out.
By: symon - 23rd June 2012 at 11:17
A wing on it’s own is unstable in pitch.
Well, apart from highly advanced designs like the B-2B blended wing design 😉
By: DMac10121 - 22nd June 2012 at 18:21
Thank you all so much, it makes sense! You guys are very informative.
By: chornedsnorkack - 22nd June 2012 at 10:56
Regarding fin and rudder – fin obviously will provide a returning torque against yawing into sideslip.
Is it needed?
Is Taube dangerously yawing?
Taube could turn by banking via aileron application (actually wing warping, but the control effects are equivalent).
What is a rudder for? For “coordinated” turns.
What is the problem with uncoordinated turns by ailerons alone – with rudder either idle or nonexistent?
By: DH106 - 22nd June 2012 at 10:44
A wing on it’s own is unstable in pitch.
Let’s say at a certain angle of attack you balance it with the C.G. in the same place as the centre of lift – it balances so no tailplane required. But if you increase the angle of attack, the centre of pressure (lift) moves forward which then creates an out of balance moment which tends to pitch the wing up MORE. The reverse happens for decreasing angle of attack – the centre of pressure moves back tending to pitch the wing further down. The tailplane is there in part to provide a large corrective moment and prevent this effect.
By: chornedsnorkack - 22nd June 2012 at 07:38
Not quite sure about the fin either – Etrich Taube certainly has no fin whatsoever.
But does have horizontal stabilizer.
Now, what is the use of the horizontal stabilizer? Concorde does without.
The use is stabilizing the plane against pitching.
The angle of attack must decrease backwards. Accordingly, a tailplane must have smaller angle of attack than main wing, whereas a canard must have bigger angle of attack.
When a plane with tailplane pitches up so far as to stall the main wing, the wing falls – but the tailplane at lower angle of attack is as yet unstalled, keeps the tail up and therefore drops nose, releasing the main wing from stall;
when a plane with canards pitches up, the canard having higher angle of attack stalls first, drops nose and thus prevents main wing from stalling.
So either way the stabilizer prevents sustained stalls – and also changes of pitch short of stall.
Then how does Concorde fly without any horizontal stabilizer at all?
Note how big the wing chord is.
You can move the tailplane closer to main wing and still keep the plane stable – if the tailplane is made bigger on account of the smaller leverage.
Accordingly, a plane with big chord could completely merge the stabilizer into the trailing edge of the main wing.
With some obvious disadvantages.