Need help with Ridel starter motor for ME262 Jumo engine

Hi Tom & Bernd:

Riedels seem to be common in museums, at least during my web searches.

There is a thread on LEMB here about Riedels, with good links (including one back to this thread!).

The RAE report, F.A. 245/1, has some good stuff, in English.

Thanks for the photos, Tom!

HTH!

Regards,
James

I saw one of these little engines being restored very recently… at work we have the Rolls-Royce heritage trust, they’re always rebuilding various piston and jet engines for museums etc…

When I last popped in to see them, there was one of these little beauties being cared for! I don’t know if they had any information on it, but I can ask for you..

Cheers, Scott.

Hi Tom

Bruce is dead right about technical German. Native Germans usually seem to struggle with some of the words nowadays.

There was a Reidel starter on eBay just before Christmas, one virtually complete engine plus parts for another two or three and I think the lot went for around £700 but I can`t remember exactly.

The dynamo is not aircraft-specific, but could well fit a B-36. I have the same one on a B-29 airborne APU. They are readily available and there is little point in sending one overseas, but if you are in the USA you could easily sell it I`m sure.

Pete

Riedel_Startermotor_Me262_Spares

for my well runnig restord Engine, I looking for spare parts all kinds.
Also for tecnical drawings (cuts), handbooks, assembly advises ect.

i know that the Pima air and space museum are restoring or have nearley finished restoring a b-36 they might be interested
regards Sam

Ah! Thats very useful (not that I need it anymore!)

Bruce

Yes some technical words unfortunately are not easy to translate, better just to think in German and then it all makes sense, I sometimes find myself using the german words in normal usage because its easier! A very good online dictionary is:

http://www.dict.cc/

Matt

Yes, but you have to careful with some of the more technical German words, which google really cant deal with! (Actually, professional translators often cant deal with them either, which I discovered to my cost!) I translated most of the FW190 parts books at one point, and did some of the maintenance manual, using a combination of Babelfish, a dictionary, and a good helping of technical knowledge!

Bruce

Hi Tom,
unfortunately with most german WWII manuals there aren’t any translations. It is possible to Translate using optical character recognition software and then google (which is getting better and better all the time) and a good dictionary, this can produce pretty good results.
Matt

Thanks for info.

Here is the only part I am sure is supposed to be from a B36. A generator my dad picked up with the intention of making an arc welder, but never got around to touching it. Curious if it has any value or desirabily? Is it proper for any other aircraft from the same era?

Unfortunately I dont speak/read German – so hopeing someone can produce some of the English miltary references on the Reidel.

I think right now I would be more interested in takeing stock of the Reidel parts I have, and then maybe tradeing parts with other Reidel owners.

My father has stated he had the Reidel running when he got it, but that was long ago.

Very nice, as Bruce says they are reasonably common, would love to see one running however and would like to restore one myself so if your looking to offload it 😉

There is a possibility Hafner has a manual for it if you have a search (it may be contained within the 262 manual), sorry if he doesnt!

http://www.luftfahrt-archiv-hafner.de/

All the best

Matt

@Tom: Matt is right, Hafner has a manual for the “Riedel-Anlasser” (Riedel-starter) it´s called: Riedel-Anlasser Technische Unterlagen, for 19 €, you will find it listed under Junkers Motorenwerke JUMO, scroll down to JUMO 004, second last item above Junkers Verstelluftschrauben VLS (variable pitch propellers).

Michael

Very nice, as Bruce says they are reasonably common, would love to see one running however and would like to restore one myself so if your looking to offload it 😉

There is a possibility Hafner has a manual for it if you have a search (it may be contained within the 262 manual), sorry if he doesnt!

http://www.luftfahrt-archiv-hafner.de/

All the best

Matt

I know I have parts from a B36 too – particularly a generator.

Would like to see pics of those if you feel you can post them?

Any museums restoring a B36 presently????

Not sure if this is any help, or needed, but I believe Castle Air Force Base museum are (or were two years ago, probably not finished yet) restoring their B-36.

3-400 Euro or so

Something like that anyway.

Bruce

What do they sell for?

Riedel starters are not uncommon. They usually turn up at the flea market at Speyer, held twice a year.

Nice thing though!

Bruce

Still more pics.

If you see parts not from an ME262 – I would appreciate you pointing them out. I know I have parts from a B36 too – particularly a generator.

Any museums restoring a B36 presently????

More pics.