Neustrashimy's torbedo set& Mystic P-100 version of moskit??

Hello

The P-800 Yakhont missile has 300 km range.

I never said that Yakhont has 1000km range, I said that it will be nice to have 1000km range and to receive land attack capability. Yakhont has only 250km range.

P-100 never existed. P-100 was an “exotic” missile of khrutchev era and when I came in power in 1964 I cancelled all these foulisness of khrutchev. So P-100 has nothing to do with Moskit missile and of cource absolutely nothing with Neustrasmyy’s TTs (I don’t think that an 60t missile ever fits in a TT:rolleyes: ). When I was in power 1964 – 1982 I was more “conservative” and traditional leader than khruchev.;)

http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/p100.htm

SNAKE 65:

The Klub missiles are only for export and they have range (3M14) only 300km. The 3M10 are only submarine launched and I wish finally Nakhimov to be fitted with them. But for me the greatest weapon will be a land attack version of Yakhont with 1000km range. Is any possibility for Yakhont to be modified as a land attack weapon?:confused:

As for P-100 if really ever existed it would be a very fat and non mavuerable weapon.

Yakhont doesn’t have a 1000km range.

Hello

Neustrashimy launch a RPK-6 Missile from a 533 mm torpedo tube

There’s Klub 3C14 land attack missile and of course there’s still 3M10 Granat sub-launched LACM

Well if the TT tube version of Moskit was a fiction, have you ever encountered information of waht SSM the Neustrashimy’s would have used? If the ship was desinged as outset to a SRK role, one could assume that ASuW capcity would have come along in the desing board phase.

SNAKE 65:

The Klub missiles are only for export and they have range (3M14) only 300km. The 3M10 are only submarine launched and I wish finally Nakhimov to be fitted with them. But for me the greatest weapon will be a land attack version of Yakhont with 1000km range. Is any possibility for Yakhont to be modified as a land attack weapon?:confused:

As for P-100 if really ever existed it would be a very fat and non mavuerable weapon.

Thank you Snake, I was kinda counting on you to find good answer:)

But its rahter pity that there isent that sort of system onboard. It would have made the ships capacity to increase essentially…

There’s Klub 3C14 land attack missile and of course there’s still 3M10 Granat sub-launched LACM;)

Thank you Snake, I was kinda counting on you to find good answer:)

But its rahter pity that there isent that sort of system onboard. It would have made the ships capacity to increase essentially…

I’ve seen P-100 associated with the 3M82 Moskit-M, 3M80 Moskit being the P-80.

I’m sure, that You’ve never seen that in any Russian source:diablo:

I’ve seen P-100 associated with the 3M82 Moskit-M, 3M80 Moskit being the P-80.

These are just universal tubes/launchers, which can launch both Vodopad/Veter and ordinary torpedoes.
P-100 as a version of early Moskit is a fiction. There is only one version of Moskit existant – surface ship launched. Even the air version was eventually cancelled. It is possible that a sub or tube launched Moskit was proposed to counter tube launched Onyx and Kalibr, but such a design has never come off the drawing board. Moskit was to replace P-15 Termit and P-120 Malakhit in service, so somebody may have jumped to conclusions that there will be a sub version to replace Malakhit on Pr.670M (CharlieII) boats.
Diamater of Moskit is 0.76m, Onyx has 0.7m, but it’s very tight-packed in the tube (0.71m).
P-100 designation was assigned to Beriev design from 1961 of silos launched medium range land attack cruise missile with estimated range of up to 2500 km.

This isnt a surface launched version of the Kh-31 anti shipping variant is it? I cant tell you the exact dimensions right now but I would have thought that it would fit in a torpedo tube, it also looks like a mini-moskit so may be the reason for the confusion- just a thought.:confused:

well most of the sources mentions these torbedo catabults that would enable all diameter weapons to be fired, with out the limitations of the tubes diameter. The question is, that are there torbedo tubes or catabults and was P-100 ever existing??

I think it’s unlikely. Off the top of my head, I can’t recall the diameter of the Moskit airframe but even the much slimmer and lighter Yakhont is too big for even a 650mm torpedo tube. Suffice to say that IMHO launching a Moskit from a torpedo tube would require so many modifications to the missile that it would cease to be a Moskit 😉 Submarine launch and folding fins can implicate that it was designed for vertical launch tubes too, and that seems to be the more realistic option in this case.

I do think the Neustrashimy has angled 650mm tubes, that much should be true. The Urans weren’t fitted on the first of class IIRC, but they might be mounted on the second ship (the name escapes me right now) IF it is ever completed.

I have wondered this a lot, since many of the sources (including this: http://www.forecastinternational.com/archive/ws/ws10997.htm, and the 1995edition of Conways all the world fighting ships)
mentions that the ship is essentially fitted with 65cm torbedo catabults like in french warships that can launch the 100-Ru ASW missiles as well as P-100 designated folding fin version of the moskit orginally mented to launch from submarines.

However, I once saw in this russian forum, a pic from the interior of the ship, showing the torpedo compartment (well you can imagine did I remember to save the pics….:D 😀 ) or atleast similar angeled set of something that looked like torbedo tubes. It made me wonder….

Then, many places sites that the ship is eventually to be fitted (and orginally meneted?) to be fitted with the Uran SSM, but if so, why arent those fitted yet? As it been done to many other vessels?

Just something that have bothered me for this week…

Thats actually a very good question! A folding fin Moskit would still be a very big missile but it would certainly add a good ASuW capability to alot of ships. Anbody have any info about this?