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Prompted by the G91 thread on the Modern Military board, what is the most significant warplane (numerically) never to see operational use? How about the B-47? If we limit it to British types, the Lightning?

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By: BIGVERN1966 - 23rd April 2006 at 11:51

Is that not also Sea Venoms and Seahawks, plus Gannets etc, sorry, mustn’t forget the Navy.

Which ‘Confrontation’ do you mean Bigvern.

I would say your spot on with that one Pete. As for the second part, Indonesia (1962-66, Dates from memory, so I may be incorrect on start, which was nothing to do with Op Firedog).

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By: BIGVERN1966 - 23rd April 2006 at 11:46

i may be wrong but didnt javelins fire on eygption tu-16s on a few occations, i think it was the suez crises….B-47s was used in nam im sure of it, in the early days though. the F-106 dart was never used in anger was it, what about RAF F-4s i think it was one of the few operators thet never used them in anger. japan is the only other nation i can think of….

Javelin was not around for Suez

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By: DGH - 23rd April 2006 at 11:43

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By: sea vixen - 23rd April 2006 at 11:42

i may be wrong but didnt javelins fire on eygption tu-16s on a few occations, i think it was the suez crises….B-47s was used in nam im sure of it, in the early days though. the F-106 dart was never used in anger was it, what about RAF F-4s i think it was one of the few operators thet never used them in anger. japan is the only other nation i can think of….

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By: Pete Truman - 23rd April 2006 at 11:39

The RAF Combat Aircraft in Suez (not counting Transports, Shacks and Choppers)

Venom
Hunter
Canberra
Valiant

Is that not also Sea Venoms and Seahawks, plus Gannets etc, sorry, mustn’t forget the Navy.

Which ‘Confrontation’ do you mean Bigverne.

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By: BIGVERN1966 - 23rd April 2006 at 11:38

If were talking British aircraft then what about the Javelin ( 435 built ) which I don’t ‘think’ fired a shot in anger it’s afterburners normally being enough to scare people away during the Malayan Conflict.

P.S. nice username D1566. DGH ( part owner 47105/295/376/401/417 ) πŸ™‚

The Javelin was around for the Confrontation as well, I don’t think it ever did fire a shot in anger, however.

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By: BIGVERN1966 - 23rd April 2006 at 11:33

Was not the Attacker used by the IAF in some of their skirmishes, and I think that Scimitars and Vixens were used to sink the Torrey Canyon in 1967, or doesn’t that count, used in anger though.
I thought as well that Javs were used in Aden in the 60’s.
What about the Swift?
Any one have a list of what was used in the Suez crisis.

The RAF Combat Aircraft in Suez (not counting Transports, Shacks and Choppers)

Venom
Hunter
Canberra
Valiant

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By: D1566 - 23rd April 2006 at 11:30

If were talking British aircraft then what about the Javelin ( 435 built ) which I don’t ‘think’ fired a shot in anger it’s afterburners normally being enough to scare people away during the Malayan Conflict.

P.S. nice username D1566. DGH ( part owner 47105/295/376/401/417 ) πŸ™‚

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By: Pete Truman - 23rd April 2006 at 11:25

What about the Supermarine Scimitar?, or the Attacker even? DH Sea Vixen?

Was not the Attacker used by the IAF in some of their skirmishes, and I think that Scimitars and Vixens were used to sink the Torrey Canyon in 1967, or doesn’t that count, used in anger though.
I thought as well that Javs were used in Aden in the 60’s.
What about the Swift or RAF Phantoms, though these were used on CAPS in the Falklands, and I believe they chased off a few Argie incersions.
Any one have a list of what was used in the Suez crisis.

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By: DGH - 23rd April 2006 at 11:08

If were talking British aircraft then what about the Javelin ( 435 built ) which I don’t ‘think’ fired a shot in anger it’s afterburners normally being enough to scare people away during the Malayan Conflict.

P.S. nice username D1566. DGH ( part owner 47105/295/376/401/417 ) πŸ™‚

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By: D1566 - 23rd April 2006 at 10:48

What about the Supermarine Scimitar?, or the Attacker even? DH Sea Vixen?

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By: BIGVERN1966 - 23rd April 2006 at 08:50

B-58 HUSTLER, F4D SKYRAY, F-89 SCORPION, F3H DEMON, F7U CUTLASS to name a few.

Very good call. Has Alpha Jet done any fighting?

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By: Dog House Ldr. - 23rd April 2006 at 03:42

B-58 HUSTLER, F4D SKYRAY, F-89 SCORPION, F3H DEMON, F7U CUTLASS to name a few.

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By: ForkTailedDevil - 23rd April 2006 at 00:03

Su27 was in combat in the fighting between Eritrea and Ethiopia.

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By: BIGVERN1966 - 22nd April 2006 at 17:06

Bill Gunston’s Russian Aircraft has 900 Tu-4 Bull. Doesn’t count if you reckon it as B-29. The answer must be a USSR type whose production run is vague – has every Sukhoi type fought?

Do not think the Su-11 Fishpot was ever exported, the same for the Tu-128 Flidder (and most likely have never shoot at anything in anger, unless they have got an overflight kill, which is I think is unlikely). SU-15 Flagon has fired weapons in anger (killed a Korean Air 747 in 1983). Has the SU-27 ever been in Combat?

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By: alertken - 22nd April 2006 at 16:48

Bill Gunston’s Russian Aircraft has 900 Tu-4 Bull. Doesn’t count if you reckon it as B-29. The answer must be a USSR type whose production run is vague – has every Sukhoi type fought?

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By: BIGVERN1966 - 22nd April 2006 at 15:36

Tu-95 Bear????

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By: Pete Truman - 22nd April 2006 at 14:52

What about the B-36 Peacemaker; 10 years active service, none used in combat. Did their job as a major deterrent.

How many were built though, Googling referred to over 2000 B-47’s.

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By: turbo_NZ - 22nd April 2006 at 13:31

Prompted by the G91 thread on the Modern Military board, what is the most significant warplane (numerically) never to see operational use? How about the B-47? If we limit it to British types, the Lightning?

What about the B-36 Peacemaker; 10 years active service, none used in combat. Did their job as a major deterrent.

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By: BIGVERN1966 - 22nd April 2006 at 13:11

Actually B47s flew spy flights in the Cold War over the USSR so I suppose they did see sharp end operational service.

I think one was actually shot down and one did get back with damage done to it by a Mig. Again, I think the Lightning’s did see action with the Saudis.

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