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If the new Boeing 747 variant has a range of just over 7000 miles, how will it be able to fly non-stop from London to Australia, which is just over 10,000 miles?
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By: Comet - 4th April 2002 at 11:58

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Thanks for all the replies. I saw the headline “New Jumbo to fly to Australia non-stop” on the BBC Ceefax news headlines, and it may also have been in a newspaper as well. I remember reading about the Qantas 747-400 which did make a non-stop flight, but I’m sure that was just to prove a record or something. Personally, I would not want such a long flight, when I went to Australia I went via LA with Air New Zealand and had a couple of days stopover, which was just right, before the 14 hours 40 minutes flight from LA to Sydney. Watching the dawn break and then flying in low over the Sydney Opera House was something I’ll never forget (we landed in Sydney at around 6:45am.)

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By: T5 - 3rd April 2002 at 20:25

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Amazing programme… what is it?

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By: mongu - 31st March 2002 at 20:11

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Virgin have bars – certainly on their 747 fleet.

Only in upper class though (ie at the front of the aircraft)

I mention this as they are shortly to be serving Australia, apparently.

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By: monster500 - 31st March 2002 at 02:30

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SIA to my knowledge dont have a bar.
the timetable above clearly under STOPS says 1 so it cant be nonstop.
First class has some sort of bar area
Imagine getting stuck near a crying baby on at 17 hour flight
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I think Qanats is the only airline to have ever flown the 744 from LHR-SYD nonstop one time on Aug 17 2000 on a delivery flight of VH -OJA

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By: Benair316P - 29th March 2002 at 12:32

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These longer flights would be almost unbearable for the passengers. This is why the companies are trying to make the aircraft more like the floating towns of ferries and cruise ships. (e.g the A380 development with it’s bars, casinos, cinemas, restaurants etc…)

SIA already have a bar onboard their 744s, am I right?

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By: Benair316P - 29th March 2002 at 12:28

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Yeh, I think it was the one Saab mentioned last week. The unmarked A340 in the states with all the aerials on?

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By: Hand87_5 - 29th March 2002 at 12:08

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You’re right . There is a flight from CDG to LAX on AA.
This “non stop” flight (AA045 I guess) stops at JFK with an equipment change.

However an A340 flew for test non-stop from TLS to AKL !!!! I guess it’s still the record.

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By: Benair316P - 29th March 2002 at 12:03

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Some airlines do state some flights from the UK to OZ as non-stop. However, It is not physically possible for the aircraft to fly ALL the way. They do stop off in the far-east, but the ‘non-stoppers’ simply stop to re-fuel. In most cases the passengers dont even disembark. It is then down to opinion whether the flight is non-stop or not.

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By: Hand87_5 - 29th March 2002 at 09:07

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Well ,

So far according with my timetable , I found only 2 scheduled carriers operating from London to AUS : BA and QF.

None of them has a non stop flight.
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By: Sauron - 29th March 2002 at 03:15

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I would also be interested to know who flys non-stop from the UK to Australia (anywhere) on a routine basis.

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By: monster500 - 28th March 2002 at 01:27

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who is flying nonstop from the UK to AUS at the moment
i dont believ anyona is at the moment

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By: Glenn - 28th March 2002 at 00:23

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Non-stop from the UK to Oz happens a lot now, and most still have to travel economy. Sleep if you can, I can’t, hope they have good movies, at least a couple, get quietly drunk and hide under a blanket, chat up the Flight attendants or the prettiest person you can find. Any other suggestions?

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By: mongu - 27th March 2002 at 20:35

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It would be sheer hell in toilet class seats.

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By: Morpheus - 27th March 2002 at 18:55

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A non-stop flight from London to Australia would be suicide. I regret the ones that travel economy.

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By: monster500 - 27th March 2002 at 03:39

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Well contrarty to popular belief Australia is more than just Sydney
the 747 could fly London to Perth nonstop and continue to Sydney from perth

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By: Sauron - 26th March 2002 at 22:21

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Log on to the Boeing site. They have a graphic which illustrates their stated range of both the 747-400 – 13445km/7260m, and the 747-400ER – 14,205km/7670m. There is no mention of direct fights from London to Sydney that I could find.

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By: mongu - 26th March 2002 at 21:16

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Range is a function of payload – so on a nearly empty service it might stretch to 7,000 miles – just like a few special 747-400 flights did.

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