MOSCOW, August 13 (RIA Novosti) – Representatives of the Russian defense and industrial complex said that the well-known American-made PATRIOT system, designed to destroy dynamic targets as well as intercontinental ballistic missiles, may be left behind by the new Russian air defense system forever, reports Vremya Novostei.
Research work on the Samoderzhets project (single air defense missile system of interspecific use), based on groundwork of all defense and industry complex research institutes dealing with air defense and missile defense has been completed. Samoderzhets will include the well-known features of S-300VM and S-400 systems. The new Russian system is likely to become a basis of a non-strategic theater missile defense system.
According to Vremya Novostei’s source in the Russian defense and industry complex, the appearance of Samoderzhets will bring to the treasury, though not directly, big money – the government is likely to allow selling S-400 systems abroad. Asked whether the appearance of this system is a new turn of an arms race, the source said: “Vice versa, as it’s no sense trying to catch up with Samoderzhets
By: Indian1973 - 31st January 2005 at 11:10
US/West has always focussed more on aircraft to do the job, not huge SAM systems.
no matter how great a SAM system is, attacking aircraft hold the initiative of when to strike and when to pull back. sooner or later, a determined and smart attack will blow holes in a SAM based network esp with very accurate satellite imagery, GPS guided munitions and long sticks like JASSM.
Russia should invest into a JSFski asap if it wants to remain competitive.
By: nuke1 - 30th January 2005 at 21:24
because the russians haven’t the fuel for manned interceptors, perhaps(despite Russia is one of the oil producer in the world)
By: Arabella-Cox - 3rd September 2004 at 21:57
Speaking of range, why’s there a sudden increase in VSHORADS in the west while the Russians keep increasing the range?
By: Arabella-Cox - 29th August 2004 at 03:05
S-300 remains mostly an anti-aicraft system while THAAD and Arrow are pure ABM systems.
First of all you need to be more precise… the S-300V is the SA-12 system that is not related to the other S-300 weapons mentioned here. Second both S-300 system types (SA-10 and SA-12) are fully self contained systems and do not require any strategic assets to be available for use to do their job. Thirdly as multiuse systems they will likely be available in greater numbers and more widely deployed.. this alone will make them more effective and damage redundant.
By: bubulle - 28th August 2004 at 08:42
ABM systems
THAAD and Arrow supposedly go to much higher altitudes than S-300 (100 km compared to 30 km) but that’s not the point. S-300 remains mostly an anti-aicraft system while THAAD and Arrow are pure ABM systems.
Concerning the boost-phase intercept, there are big hopes that the Boost Phase Interceptor will supplement or even replace the ABL
By: seahawk - 20th August 2004 at 15:05
Patriot is their current system… and one they have poured a lot of money into to make it do something the Russian missiles were designed to do from the outset.
No doubt about that Garry. But they really should compare themselves wit the newser systems. Russians SAMs are world leading, so why not saying so??
By: bring_it_on - 20th August 2004 at 07:34
actually the next US missile defence isnt tottally based on thaad it is gonna be a mix of thaad , meads and pac-3 …this is only one dimension of a comprehensive layered missile defence which includes lasers and other monitoring technologies..
By: Srbin - 19th August 2004 at 18:27
Thats just Anti-Missile right? Against tactical aircraft and such, the Americans have nothing close to the S-400 or even the S-300PMU2. The THAAD seems to be modestly comperable to the S-300PMU2 if I am not wrong.
By: wd1 - 17th August 2004 at 14:23
i stand corrected. thanks gents!
By: Arabella-Cox - 17th August 2004 at 07:32
Patriot is an old system anyway. They should compare it to THAAD and MEADS.
Patriot is their current system… and one they have poured a lot of money into to make it do something the Russian missiles were designed to do from the outset.
By: seahawk - 15th August 2004 at 15:38
Patriot is an old system anyway. They should compare it to THAAD and MEADS.
By: SOC - 15th August 2004 at 15:21
Only the AL-1 is currently slated to be laser-based, and it might get the axe if the laser system doesn’t start working like it’s supposed to. US air/missile defense would be PAC-3/THAAD/AL-1/NMD.
By: Vympel - 15th August 2004 at 13:18
PAC-3 almost certainly, though this article as usual gets it wrong, the PAC-3 doens’t have a chance against ICBMs, only TBMs.
the next gen of US air defense systems will be laser-based. destruction at the speed of light. shoots down eveything down to missiles and arty shells… can an S-400 do that? that’s where all their R&D cash is going… it’s the russians who are gonna get hopelessly left behind.
The Airborne Laser program is currently a farce and the MTHEL system is currently decidely THEL and never intended to be anything more than short-range. The next-gen of US air defense is THAAD- a missile system. So yeah, you’re wrong 🙂
Seriously, this is just hyerpbole, but its interesting to know that the system after S-400 is on the way.
By: wd1 - 15th August 2004 at 11:02
the next gen of US air defense systems will be laser-based. destruction at the speed of light. shoots down eveything down to missiles and arty shells… can an S-400 do that? that’s where all their R&D cash is going… it’s the russians who are gonna get hopelessly left behind.
By: GDL - 15th August 2004 at 02:52
Interesting…… Are they comparing this to PAC-2+ GEM or the PAC-3? And I wonder how this would compare to THAAD in the ABM role.
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