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New Spitfire

Hmmm…..this is a new one, anyone got some history or details ?

http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=60&pagetype=65&appid=1&mode=detailnosummary&fullregmark=TCHZ

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By: Robbo - 15th April 2012 at 08:53

What’s the lead time on ordering a Mk.IIa time capsule? 😀

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By: Mark12 - 15th April 2012 at 07:53

Photos of P7819 in its original (pre-crashed) state are in existence, it seems. Thus, this potential project ought to have a reference source for its eventual finish and markings…..

Get your drawing board out, Roobarb!

Very, very interesting markings.

Addendum for Vol. II of the boo…perhaps.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 15th April 2012 at 07:40

Photos of P7819 in its original (pre-crashed) state are in existence, it seems. Thus, this potential project ought to have a reference source for its eventual finish and markings…..

Get your drawing board out, Roobarb!

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By: mackerel - 11th April 2012 at 21:37

Looking at the registration, I wonder whether it will have a blue stable-mate

Nope you are wrong there !

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By: Oxcart - 11th April 2012 at 16:34

So, is a spitfire data worth much?

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By: xtangomike - 11th April 2012 at 14:05

I would like to be used by Nigella Lawson if it’ll help!!

I don’t think you are aerodynamically suited to fly, but there might be some parts of you usefull enough for Nigella to chew on !!!!

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By: Rocketeer - 11th April 2012 at 11:57

I would like to be used by Nigella Lawson if it’ll help!!

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By: Malcolm McKay - 11th April 2012 at 11:43

I’m waiting for the first restoration of a Spitfire based on a pencil rubbing of a real data plate taken from a Spitfire that took part in the Battle of Britain that was subsequently shot down and converted to aluminium ingots which later became a fine set of kitchen saucepans after going through separate lives as a Lancaster, a toaster, a Vulcan then finally finding fame after being used by Nigella Lawson.

Now that won’t be a data plate special that will be a hot plate special 😀

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By: Arabella-Cox - 11th April 2012 at 09:35

I agree. Never enough new projects!

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By: CeBro - 10th April 2012 at 17:42

Come on chaps,

Step back in reality, this is how this works for the CAA. Accept it or seek
a new pastime to enjoy. You don’t have to like it, but it doesn’t
help repeating this over and over again. Remember, it’s the Spitfire forum, or was it the Lancaster forum,…….;)

Keep them coming, in droves please.
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By: GrahamF - 10th April 2012 at 11:31

🙂 will it be at *******:)

How much of it remains,is there enough for a genuine rebuild.

Quite a lot, they managed to recover a cigarette butt from the bottom of the cockpit which reputedly fell from the lips of the chap at Supermarine who fitted the wings.
It will be encapsulated in resin and bolted to the inside of the cockpit to insure
originality with the real aircraft.

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By: paulmcmillan - 10th April 2012 at 08:50

….which now (possibly) lies 850 yards SW of Dungeness Point.

Get your diving gear out, but look out for the nuclear power station cooling intake or outfall!

Has that particular Spitfire got a “Dungeness B” Wing?

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By: Arabella-Cox - 9th April 2012 at 16:09

….which now (possibly) lies 850 yards SW of Dungeness Point.

Get your diving gear out, but look out for the nuclear power station cooling intake or outfall!

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By: G-ORDY - 9th April 2012 at 16:02

This video clip shows the other aircraft involved in this action taxying past the camera. It was “RF-R”, Hereward the Wake, P8039. A presentation aircraft bought by the people of Ely, Cambridgeshire.

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/polish-airmen-and-their-president

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By: Arabella-Cox - 9th April 2012 at 14:06

“The excavation at the crash site took place, I believe, in 1982. I do not know the detail of what was recovered save to say that the CBAF constructor’s data plate from the cockpit was found.”

See my signature below…..

Page 49 of my article on The Dungeness Spitfire (ATB Magazine No 55, 1987) and you will find a photograph of the said data plate.

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By: xtangomike - 9th April 2012 at 13:54

Perhaps they were at the auction….!!!!!?????

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By: knifeedgeturn - 9th April 2012 at 13:43

“The excavation at the crash site took place, I believe, in 1982. I do not know the detail of what was recovered save to say that the CBAF constructor’s data plate from the cockpit was found.”

See my signature below…..

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By: PanzerJohn - 9th April 2012 at 13:27

So they got the data plate, half way there, bolt a pair of wings onto it with a cockpit and few other bits, and bob’s yer uncle, Legends beckons!

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By: xtangomike - 9th April 2012 at 13:05

Pilots of No. 303 (Polish) Squadron RAF with one of their Hawker Hurricanes, October 1940.

A group of pilots of No 303 Polish Fighter Squadron RAF walking toward the camera from a Hawker Hurricane after, purportedly, returning from a fighter sortie. Left to right, in the front row are; Pilot Officer MirosƂaw Ferić, Flight Lieutenant John A Kent (Commander of ‘A’ Flight), Flying Officer Bogdan Grzeszczak, Pilot Officer Jerzy Radomski, Pilot Officer Witold Ɓokuciewski, Pilot Officer BogusƂaw Mierzwa (obscured by Ɓokuciewski), Flying Officer ZdzisƂaw Henneberg, Sergeant Jan Rogowski and Sergeant Eugeniusz Szaposznikow. In the centre, to the rear of this group, wearing helmet and goggles is Flying Officer Jan Zumbach.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 9th April 2012 at 12:44

Several have requested details from my 1987 article (written in 1986) relative to the loss of P7819 at Dungeness. It is as follows:

“….As the Messerschmitts had come down in the attack the very first to go were 303’s weavers, Pilot Officers Waskiewicz and Mierzwa. Hit from behind, both took terrific punishment from the Messerschmitt’s 20mm cannon and 7.92mm machine guns. They probably never knew what hit them, and never had a chance to shout a warning. Waskiewicz plunged into the sea, no doubt dead over his controls, a momentary plume of spray and slick of oil being his only grave marker. Fractionally later and Mierzwa followed the same way, his Spitfire (P7819) roaring with awful ferocity into the pebble beach at Dungeness and shaking even the foundations of the solid and immovable lighthouse just yards away. It was some time before those on the ground could approach the blazing wreckage, although ‘wreckage’ is probably an incorrect term to describe the scene which met the gaze of those nearby. Almost nothing remained to show that an aeroplane had crashed here; the terrible inferno had sent exploding ammunition flying in all directions together with razor sharp flakes of flint from the pebbles which were shattering in the intense heat. When the blaze had died down, a small heap of white ash and molten aluminium lay around a shallow and blackened depression in the beach, the scorched pebbles having fallen back into the crater which had been viciously carved by the crash. When the stomach-churning task of picking through the wreckage had finished, the pitiful remains were taken away for burial by his brother Poles at Northwood. By some miracle, Boguslav Mierzwa’s identification had survived the crash.”

The excavation at the crash site took place, I believe, in 1982. I do not know the detail of what was recovered save to say that the CBAF constructor’s data plate from the cockpit was found.

Photo here of the on-site memorial:

http://www.urban75.org/photos/kent/dungeness.html

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