For some time now, ANZ have been flying passengers directly from LHR-LAX. But, as far as I’m aware, there is no open skies agreement with New Zealand to allow their carriers to fly passengers between the UK and US?
I’m sure BAW are not allowed to fly from LAX-AKL, so how does ANZ get away with LHR-LAX?
Whilst its within international flying rights to stop over at an airport to re-fuel, I always thought you couldn’t drop off (outbound) or pick up (inbound) passengers along the way? Eg. BAW fly LHR-SIN-SYD, but they are not allowed to pick up any passengers at SIN and take them to SYD?
By: symon - 2nd September 2012 at 06:56
Continental were planning on flying the Houston – Auckland route with the 787 when they got them. I don’t think this is going ahead any more, but not sure if this is a result of the United merger or otherwise.
By: KALIMITED - 1st September 2012 at 00:51
Matt
Basically its all down to the Flight numbers the easiest way is to look at it based on the following formula below:
Origin FLT NO: VIA DESTINATION
Auckland AN1234 London LA
So long as the above Flt No starts or ends in Auckland its completly legal in the sence that MR. SMITH BOOKED A FLIGHT TO LA FROM AUCKLAND on FLT ANZ1234 and then you have his wife MRS SMITH BOOKED ON A FLIGHT FROM LONDON TO LA also on FLT ANZ1234 making both SECTORS of the FLIGHT on the same FLT NUMBER.
The actual Physical Asset (the Aircraft) needs not be the same but the FLT NO are and under the various Freedom rights stipulated in the Chicago convention its completly legal as its still the SAME FLIGHT not a completly different FLT.
The above is the easiest way to look at it obviously you have the various legal ramifications and off course so long as the local Airlines in the UK or USA do not Object to the above arrangement, also please take into consideration Flight time Limitations of both Cockpit and Cabin Crews as well as the FLT range of the actual asset in which case its usually the Beautiful 777.
Hope Ive helped and should you have any particular questions don’t be shy some of us are doing it right now with destinations outside of the UK on a weekly basis.
KAL
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August 31, 2012 at 1:14 pm