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No Duxford Naughty Field this year…

Hello people,

It’s been posted on the other Duxford thread but I though it worth a mention on its own as people may well be making a special journey. The following message from IWM appeared on the Flypast Facebook page and a few other places:

Statement from IWM Duxford

In advance of this weekend’s D-Day Anniversary Airshow at Duxford, IWM has asked us to post this statement:

• IWM Duxford takes great care to ensure its air shows are as safe as possible for everyone involved.

• It is not safe to occupy the fields immediately south of the runway during the air show. If you do so you are putting yourself and the display pilots in harm’s way.

• In the event of an incident it is imperative that the emergency services have clear, unhindered access to the tracks across this land.

• There is no public access to these fields at any time.

Jointly issued by IWM Duxford, Cambridgeshire Constabulary and the owners of this land.

It’s a shame that IWM can’t buy or rent that field from the landowner because I get the impression (or at least it’s my opinion!) that they could very easily sell tickets to people who want to get decent top-side photographs with the sun behind them. I’d be very happy to pay, certainly – at the moment, because I live locally, I spend one day as a paying guest inside the airfield enjoying the atmosphere and the other outside it getting the decent photos, but I know that lots of people don’t have that luxury. It’s not actually over-flown by many aircraft and only very minor changes would have to be made to a display to stop it being over-flown at all. It would be one of (if not *the*) best regular photographic locations for warbird enthusiasts in the UK.

Anyway I guess a discussion of the rights and wrongs of naughty field attendance is not useful here (search the forum for previous similar discussions), just beware that there may well be people preventing you from entering the field if you still choose to turn up on the day.

Here’s to a great show 😉

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By: trumper - 23rd June 2014 at 12:03

I guess you have to differentiate between fields and roads

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By: trumper - 23rd June 2014 at 09:48

Surely Grange Road is always closed for airshows?

It is open for access i believe but you can hardly stop people walking/cyling along it.

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By: svas_volunteer - 18th June 2014 at 21:37

Very nice surprise, well done to the fighter collection for getting it over here, I guess for the types first visit to these shores?

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By: Wyvernfan - 18th June 2014 at 21:01

While you are arguing if you should pay to go to the display or not TFC have announced this SURPRISE

Now that IS something different. Very nice too!

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By: CADman - 18th June 2014 at 19:37

I wonder what would happen if Farmer Giles said righto you can stand in my field but its £40 quid for the privilege, No ticket no entry ! how many would then go to the other side and pay £34 quid

Yes. If the photographic opertunities were better from outside side, which for much of the day at Duxford they are. I have both paid to go inside and spent time outside the fence. both have merits.

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By: Elliott Marsh - 18th June 2014 at 18:02

Legends is the best airshow in the UK, absolutely worth every penny and in my opinion, if you watch from the field, you’re attending a field, not Legends. The atmosphere is incredible and the show is, I genuinely believe, best viewed as intended. It’s the historic aviation enthusiast’s Christmas, if it doesn’t get your fires burning, nothing will!

Awesome surprise, btw. :applause:

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By: Chris G - 18th June 2014 at 17:54

While you are arguing if you should pay to go to the display or not TFC have announced this SURPRISE Seems a bit churlish at that point to argue about not paying now doesn’t it??

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By: charliehunt - 18th June 2014 at 17:47

Paul -that is exactly right. And to extend the point to simple economics – the right price is always the price people will pay. If Duxford’s air show gates were continually falling subject to the vagaries of the weather then you might conclude the price was too high because people were not prepared to pay.
That is evidently not the case.

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By: GrahamSimons - 18th June 2014 at 17:34

Here’s an idea for a future Leg-Ends… a trio of Canadair CL-215 water-bombers (Buffalo Airways maybe?) giving a demonstration of flying and water-bombing in trail?…

or…

Send an invite out to bring a Martin Mars over for a demo?

Just a thought!

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By: paul1867 - 18th June 2014 at 17:30

Surely it is not what any individual can afford but whether air shows are expensive when compared with other forms of entertainment. The examples given in this thread clearly indicate that, in fact, air shows are good value for money and as an added bonus the entrance fee goes directly to help keeping these aeroplanes where we like to see them rather than linings somebodies pocket. If you have to travel and stay then these are very likely going to cost you more than the entrance especially as local hotels put up their prices for the weekend of the event. There are also now many free air shows put on by towns all around the country. Those of us of a certain age remember the “At Home Days” and the “lively” displays put on then but regrettably our economy does not seem to stretch that far any more.

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By: TwinOtter23 - 18th June 2014 at 16:49

Personally speaking I think that Waddington Airshow has done a brilliant job regarding charitable donations (service related & local) – £3.3 million since 1995 as mentioned in here https://www.waddingtonairshow.co.uk/news/2013-show-raises-over-375000-for-service-charities-and-local-worthy-causes/ :applause:

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By: jack windsor - 18th June 2014 at 16:31

I’d like a Ferrari, I can’t afford it, so I won’t be buying one, however that doesn’t entitle me to go to a Ferrari garage and just take one anyway just because I want one?

I and my family will be going to Legends. We don’t drink or smoke and prioritise our expenditure to allow for such events, we sacrifice things such as eating out frequently to be able to afford the things we like. The cost for a world renowned premium event is a price worth paying for us. More so we’re very happy to pay our bit to see these glorious aeroplanes flying.

no but you could go and look at one thru the windows, and no one would bother you…

Also as you say you make sacrifices so you can go these shows that’s your choice and its good for you, but those other than locals watching from outside might not have much of a choice on what to give up, so still travel to see these glorious aeroplanes flying, even though not being able to get up close as you. As I,ve mentioned before I,ve not been to a show here, I,ve no car, so I travel via train where I want to go, if I did want to go Duxford it would be a good 4hrs one way, £43 return, all for 4hrs, if I stopped overnight somewhere add also that cost, that naughty field looks very attractive… but we all have to cut our cloth etc and make the best of it.
But please remember it may not be a clear cut case of dodging paying what is becoming a very expensive hobby, also can anyone explain why the entrance charges are now so high? I,ve noticed a lot of shows have the magic get out of jail card- “for local charities” is this to forestall any questions. RAF Waddington charges £24 standard plus £4 booking charge?, the RAF always used to have open days did we not surport charities in those days?

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By: charliehunt - 18th June 2014 at 14:05

Of course it is but it’s all relative. On a fixed income I can no longer go to as many shows as I used to but the cloth is still there to be spread – bit just a bit thinner that’s all!!:)

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By: Moggy C - 18th June 2014 at 12:40

Probably not getting much change out of £130

Equivalent to a couple of forecourt fill-ups.

Looks like a bargain to me.

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By: Agent K - 18th June 2014 at 11:21

I’ve always paid to attend airshows in the past. I don’t go to them now, as being semi-retired it’s an expensive day out.

I can understand the attitude of those who choose to watch outside of the airfields perimeter though.
Especially those who may live fairly local.
A couple going to legends with two children, will have to shell out £95 to get in, and unless they take their own food, will
no doubt have to queue and pay for some very expensive food, drink, ice creams etc.

Probably not getting much change out of £130

I’d like a Ferrari, I can’t afford it, so I won’t be buying one, however that doesn’t entitle me to go to a Ferrari garage and just take one anyway just because I want one?

I and my family will be going to Legends. We don’t drink or smoke and prioritise our expenditure to allow for such events, we sacrifice things such as eating out frequently to be able to afford the things we like. The cost for a world renowned premium event is a price worth paying for us. More so we’re very happy to pay our bit to see these glorious aeroplanes flying.

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By: avion ancien - 18th June 2014 at 11:21

Of course nowadays they’d sue!!

They might find it more difficult to establish liability if the landowner posted prominently, at all entrances to the field, notices announcing that on date X water would be dropped on that field in the course of a crop spraying demonstration. Maybe a basis for discussion between the landowner and the IWM to generate a ‘win-win’ solution to their problem (unless the freeloaders decide to turn up wearing waterproofs)?

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By: AlanR - 18th June 2014 at 09:11

I’ve always paid to attend airshows in the past. I don’t go to them now, as being semi-retired it’s an expensive day out.

I can understand the attitude of those who choose to watch outside of the airfields perimeter though.
Especially those who may live fairly local.
A couple going to legends with two children, will have to shell out £95 to get in, and unless they take their own food, will
no doubt have to queue and pay for some very expensive food, drink, ice creams etc.

Probably not getting much change out of £130

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By: charliehunt - 18th June 2014 at 08:56

BRILLIANT!!;) Of course nowadays they’d sue!!

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By: alohha1234 - 18th June 2014 at 08:29

:highly_amused::highly_amused::o :):):)

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