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KLM is to loose the Royal title. If a ” royal” company is taken over by a foreign company then it looses the right to the title royal. So no more crowns for the KLM 😡

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By: Dutchy - 1st October 2003 at 15:13

Originally posted by A330Crazy
I have just read that despite the merge, both airlines will remain in their corprate ID.

Yes they will, but the title “Royal” isn’t something a compagny ownes it is giving to them and can be taken away again.

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By: A330Crazy - 1st October 2003 at 14:22

I have just read that despite the merge, both airlines will remain in their corprate ID.

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By: Ja Worsley - 1st October 2003 at 04:48

That’s not right is it? KLM is a national heritage, see my thread about what’s going on, Dutchy, mate you have my sympathy. It’s just like when we lost Ansett

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By: steve rowell - 1st October 2003 at 04:16

Thats good for the staunch republicans

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By: tenthije - 30th September 2003 at 21:14

I thought you would, it gets even better though!

I heard/read somewhere that KLM will not loose its “royalty-status” by default. It is all up to the Queen to decide if KLM is to remain royal or not.

In the past a few noteworhtly exceptions have been made. I can remember 2 aviation related:

1] During the time that the Fokker was being sucked dry(-er) by our good friends at DASA, it still had the crown in the logo. The official name was still “Koninklijke Nederlandse Vliegtuigen Fabriek Fokker” (now there’s a mouth full)

2] During the cold war the USAF had a fighter wing stationed at Soesterberg AB. They where there to “protect the queen”. As a token of respect the Queen granted the wing the priviledge of adding Royal to their squadron name and flying a crown.
The squadron has now returned to the USAF. Therefore I am not sure if the squadron is still royal. The Queen can take the priviledge away if she sees fit.
Regrettably I do not know which squadron it is. All I know is that they where based at Soesterberg and flew F15A/Bs. One of their F15s was left here for the RNlAF Museum.

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By: Dutchy - 30th September 2003 at 20:32

Originally posted by tenthije
But on the + side, one of the Dutch tv stations (either NOS or RTL) reported that the KLM could continue using the K. This dispite them loosing the “royal” by default. Since the KLM is no longer Dutch, they may no longer use the “royal” in their name.

Another idea I just had:

the Netherlands has some very favourable tax laws and quite a few companies are OFFICIALLY Dutch, even though they hardly do anything in the Netherlands. Airbus Industrie for instance is a Dutch NV!

Now what if the new holding company where registered as a Dutch NV. This has 2 advantages. KLM would remain Dutch so they are allowed to use their trade mark. Add to that the tax breaks and… voila… as the Frenchs would say!

I must say I like it very must, very much indeed.

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By: tenthije - 30th September 2003 at 19:25

But on the + side, one of the Dutch tv stations (either NOS or RTL) reported that the KLM could continue using the K. This dispite them loosing the “royal” by default. Since the KLM is no longer Dutch, they may no longer use the “royal” in their name.

Another idea I just had:

the Netherlands has some very favourable tax laws and quite a few companies are OFFICIALLY Dutch, even though they hardly do anything in the Netherlands. Airbus Industrie for instance is a Dutch NV!

Now what if the new holding company where registered as a Dutch NV. This has 2 advantages. KLM would remain Dutch so they are allowed to use their trade mark. Add to that the tax breaks and… voila… as the Frenchs would say!

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