Not sure about this – German in the RAF??

This is all fascinating stuff, cheers.

One thing puzzles me, though. Did Ken/Klaus change his name prior to even applying to join the RAF? How would he have gotten his nationality past?

How about an Austrian? (Austrian-American perhaps)

Hi Daz

S/Ldr Franz Ferdinand Colloredo-Mansfeld DFC* served on both 611 and 132 squadrons – lost on 14 Jan 1944 KIA crossing French coast (Commanding Officer of 132 (City of Bombay) Squadron, 125 Airfield, 15 Wing at the time) in Spitfire IX MH978 – Ramrod 453 am shot down near St. Pol and crashed by Berck sur Mer around noon. CWGC states:

In Memory of Squadron Leader Count FRANZ FERDINAND COLLOREDO-MANSFELD DFC and Bar

112005, 132 Sqdn., Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve who died age 33 on 14 January 1944.
Son of Count Ferdinand Colloredo-Mansfeld and of Countess Colloredo-Mansfeld (nee Iselin); husband of Countess Colloredo-Mansfeld, of Welham, Massachusetts, U.S.A. Remembered with honour BOULOGNE EASTERN CEMETERY

cheers

Allan

german name?

Hi,
There was a person of german sounding name shot down in a lysander of torbay by a FW-190.
Cheers
Jerry

ERNST, JACK DOUGLAS
Initials: J D
Nationality: Canadian
Rank: Pilot Officer
Regiment: Royal Canadian Air Force
Unit Text: 276 Sqdn.
Age: 21
Date of Death: 24/08/1942
Service No: J/9755
Additional information: Son of F. W. Eldon Ernst and of Emma Ernst (nee Kuehner).
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 100.
Cemetery: RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL

Klaus Hugo ‘Ken / Heinie’ Adam

Berlin-born Sir Kenneth Adam, KB, OBE, arrived in England from Nazi Germany in 1934 when he was 12 years old. After leaving school he studied architecture at University College, London, and the Bartlett School of Architecture, before joining the Royal Air Force as a fighter pilot in 1941. He and his brother Dennis were the first German-born pilots in the RAF, Dennis joining No. 183 Squadron in 1944, as part of the same Wing (No. 123) that his elder brother was flying in with No. 609 (West Riding) Squadron.

“I finished training and joined 609 Squadron on 1st October 1943, stationed at Lympne. In the meantime I had changed my Christian name from Klaus Hugo to Ken Adam, but everyone usually called me Heinie! I went straight on to Typhoons. Our job was basically to escort American bombers. On my first operation, I nearly ran out of fuel because my Typhoon wasn’t fitted with long-range tanks. We were flying medium-level escort over France, and my engine had cut on main tanks, so I switched over to reserve, but I thought I had better call up the CO. He gave me a terrible bollocking: ‘ Reduce your revs and try to glide back to England’. Then as I was turning, I saw planes being attacked right and left of me. There were no enemy aircraft around, but there was a high-level escort of American fighters who had never seen a Typhoon, and they thought we were Focke-Wulf 190’s, and so they just took a dive at us. And our squadron commander (S/Ldr Patric Glynn Thornton-Brown DFC) was shot down, along with a couple of others, and an American pilot in 609, a famous ice hockey player, Artie Ross, was also hit, though he managed to get back and force land somewhere on a beach. Then they sent Artie Ross to all the American fighter stations to show them a Typhoon, and I believe some pilots were later court-martialled. It was a terrible thing to happen, especially on your first operation.” Adam was to typically sport an RAF moustache, though rather than growing it as an attempt to look older, as many did, it was instead to help disguise his ‘Jewishness’ in case of capture by German troops.

Postwar, Adam has become one of the most highly regarded and influential film set designers internationally and has been nominated for Oscars for art direction five times, winning two, with ‘Barry Lyndon’ and ‘The Madness of King George’.

In 1947, Adam entered the British film industry making set drawings for ‘This Was a Woman’. He rose rapidly from draughtsman to art director, having been assistant art director on ‘The Queen of Spades’, ‘The Hidden Room’, ‘Your Witness’, ‘Captain Horatio Hornblower’, ‘The Crimson Pirate’, and ‘Helen of Troy’, before becoming full art director for the European-based sequences of Mike Todd’s ‘Around the World in 80 Days’, for which he earned his first Academy Award nomination for the winner of Best Picture for 1956. In 1962, Adam began work on Dr. No, the first in the series of James Bond films. From low-budget at the beginning to more lavish allowances during the 1970’s, Adam was able to give greater rein to his creativity. Influenced by his studies in architecture, Adam’s designs have resulted in some of the best-styled sets of modern cinema, including the acclaimed war room from Dr Strangelove, and, along with the cars used in the James Bond films, the all-time classic ‘Chitty Chitty Bang Bang’. His 1964 design of the vaults at Fort Knox in ‘Goldfinger’ came from his own imagination – access having been denied to him. So convincing was the design that it was commonly believed that the sequences had been shot on location.

In 1999 Adam designed the interior of Berlins millennium exhibition pavilion, and the Queens Birthday Honours list for 2003 included the following: Diplomatic Services – Knight Bachelor – Kenneth Hugo Adam, OBE, for services to the film industry and Anglo-German relations.

Filmography

2001 Stanley Kubrick: A Life In Pictures

1999 The Out-of-Towners – Production Designer

1997 In & Out – Production Designer

1996 Bogus – Production Designer

1995 Boys on the Side – Production Designer

1994 The Madness of King George – Production Designer

1993 Undercover Blues – Production Designer

1993 Addams Family Values – Production Designer

1991 Company Business – Production Designer

1991 The Doctor – Production Designer

1990 The Freshman – Production Designer

1989 Dead Bang – Production Designer

1988 The Deceivers – Production Designer

1986 Crimes of the Heart – Production Designer

1985 King David – Production Designer

1985 Agnes of God – Production Designer

1981 Pennies from Heaven – Associate Producer, Production Designer

1979 Moonraker – Production Designer

1977 The Spy Who Loved Me – Production Designer

1976 The Seven-Percent Solution – Production Designer

1975 Barry Lyndon – Production Designer

1975 Salon Kitty – Production Designer

1973 The Last of Sheila – Production Designer

1972 Sleuth – Production Designer

1971 Diamonds Are Forever – Production Designer

1970 The Owl and the Pussycat – Production Designer

1969 Goodbye, Mr. Chips – Production Designer

1968 Chitty Chitty Bang Bang – Production Designer

1967 You Only Live Twice – Production Designer

1966 Funeral in Berlin – Production Designer

1965 Thunderball – Production Designer

1965 The Ipcress File – Production Designer

1964 Goldfinger – Production Designer

1964 Dr. Strangelove or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb – Production Designer

1964 Woman of Straw – Production Designer

1963 In the Cool of the Day – Production Designer

1962 Dr. No – Production Designer

1962 Sodom and Gomorrah – Production Designer

1960 The Trials of Oscar Wilde – Production Designer

1959 Ten Seconds to Hell – Art Director

1959 The Angry Hills – Production Designer

1959 Portrait of a Sinner – Art Director

1959 Ben Hur

1958 Gideon of Scotland Yard – Art Director

1957 Curse of the Demon – Production Designer, Set Designer

1956 Spin a Dark Web – Art Director

1956 Around the World in 80 Days – Production Designer

1947 Prairie Express – Character played: Pete

1947 Flashing Guns – Character played: Dishpan

Best Art Direction: The Madness of King George, Won Academy Award – 1993

Best Art Direction: Addams Family Values, Nominated Academy Award – 1977

Best Art Direction: The Spy Who Loved Me, Nominated Academy Award – 1975

Best Art Direction: Barry Lyndon, Won British Academy Awards – 1965

Best Art Direction of a Color British Film: The Ipcress File, Won

Don’t forget he designed the war room for Dr Strangelove and Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

Ever heard of James Bond?

Sir Ken appeared in a documentary about the Bond movies a year or two ago. He was set designer on a number of them.

Natch. Although I never knew he did the set designs for them, and a number of others. :rolleyes:

Interesting stuff. I tried looking up Manfred von Czernin, but couldn’t find much other than a long list of family ties.

I’ve also just Googled Sir Ken Adam – I’d never heard of him before. Have there ever been any articles about him in the aviation monthlies?

hello ,
Yes Adrian,
The count Rodolphe de Hemricourt de Grunne fought during the spanish civil war .Not with the Condor Legion but in the spanish nationalist air force (fiat CR 32).He claimed 14 biplane republican kills.He fought during the BoB and added 1 Me 109 destroyed ,1 damaged and 1 Do 17 shared destroyed .He was killed in action (with 609 Sqn ) on 21 may 41.Never recovered .
cheers

There were a number of German and German-speaking Wireless Op’s flying with Bomber Command’s spoofing squadrons. They were carried in addition to the usual operator,the idea being that they would scan German night-fighter frequencies and try to disrupt them,either through jamming or by transmitting false instructions. There was an article in Flypast a couple of years back about just such a guy,a Jewish man who’s family had fled Nazi Germany in the mid-30’s.

Count Manfred von Czernin? Born in Berlin (?) to an English and a German parent? Alleged to wind up new pilots by claiming he had flown Bf109s with the Condor Legion… and if I remember rightly wasn’t there a Belgian in the RAF who HAD?

Adrian

Any other details, Snapper?

Sir Kenneth Adam, KB, OBE – spot on Mike. I’d certainly define him as German. His brother too (although I forget his name). Same Wing. The only Germans in Fighter Command I believe.

From what I remember of the story, the guy and his family were interned, but he somehow was allowed to sign up for RAF service. So I guess he was bona fide German…

I tried a search of the forum as I thought it was discussed before, but to no avail 🙁