January 15, 2002 at 5:40 pm
Which one of you goofy Brits thought this was such a good idea it needed variations?! 😀
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By: Ja Worsley - 17th January 2002 at 09:08
RE: See if you can guess what these are!!!
Ahhh the old Wyvern, cut short before it could prove itself, are there any still around?
Anyway as for my two, the Frist is a Westland P-12, yes it was a variation of the Lysander and yes the turret came from a Whitley, and yes it was designed for beach straffing. Well done GZYL, two points 😉
As for the second, it is indeed a BV-141, are any of these still around? Do you think this is where they got the idea for the cockpit of the Millenian Falcon 😀
When push comes to shove, don’t stand near a cliff
By: coanda - 16th January 2002 at 19:11
RE: See if you can guess what these are!!!
and these…..????????????????/
http://www.gkn-whl.co.uk/history_pterodactyl_4.html
http://www.gkn-whl.co.uk/history_pterodactyl_5.html
http://www.gkn-whl.co.uk/history_dreadnought.html
http://www.gkn-whl.co.uk/history_welkin.html
http://www.gkn-whl.co.uk/history_wyvern1.html
ok so no mystery but interesting aircraft all the same!!!
coanda
By: GZYL - 16th January 2002 at 16:48
RE: See if you can guess what these are!!!
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 16-01-02 AT 05:01Â PM (GMT)]The Lysander was indeed a test aircraft. The idea was that it would fly up and down beaches being invaded by the Germans, and strafe them.
Not sure about where the turret came from… I thought the Hampden didn’t have gun turrets. If it is taken from a bomber it’ll be from a Whitley or Wellington.
By: coanda - 16th January 2002 at 14:20
RE: See if you can guess what these are!!!
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 16-01-02 AT 02:21Â PM (GMT)]bottom one is a bv141, and was quite successful on the eastern front as far as I know.
the top one is obviously an abomination of the lysander, if you look, it would appear to be the tail and turret from a hampden possibly, believe it was a test aircraft only, def not reaching production standard!! lol
coanda:-)
By: Ja Worsley - 16th January 2002 at 13:38
See if you can guess what these are!!!
I know what they are cause I have the book, I want to see if you guys know your stuff 😛
When push comes to shove, don’t stand near a cliff
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By: MB5 - 16th January 2002 at 03:24
RE: O.k. fess up!
I suppose the neatest things about the GAL.38 are the four delightful Pobjoy Niagara radials; they were rated at about 90 h.p. if my memory serves. Niagaras were used in scale versions of various British military prototypes, as well as some light aircraft of the period.
R.
By: GZYL - 16th January 2002 at 00:35
RE: O.k. fess up!
Kamov Ka-22 Vintokryl, NATO code name “Hoop”. It set several convertiplane records… But never made it beyond the prototype stage.
By: Ant.H - 15th January 2002 at 23:03
RE: O.k. fess up!
Blimey,I must admit that I’m lost for the identity of this one. I should think you’d have trouble operating it from an aircraft carrier though!
By: Cool_Hand - 15th January 2002 at 19:38
RE: O.k. fess up!
Oh, so something looking like this made it obsolete? 😉
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By: Ant.H - 15th January 2002 at 19:28
RE: O.k. fess up!
I should point out that the Airspeed design is the top one of the two photos.
By: Ant.H - 15th January 2002 at 19:27
RE: O.k. fess up!
It’s a General Aircraft GAL.38 Fleet Shadower.It was designed to meet a joint Air Ministry/Admiralty requirement for a slow-flying aeroplane that could shadow a fleet of vessels.The idea was a bit of a strange one,and fixed wing designs were shortly to be outmoded by the advent of Helicopters,so the poor old GAL.38 never had much of a chance to be a success,but it did have some rather ingenious high-lift devices on the wings to enable it to cruise at just 46mph!
It also had other interesting features like folding wings and a tricycle undercarriage.
A second design was submitted by Airspeed for the same requirement and the two designs looked very similar,although Airspeed’s AS.39 had a tailwheel undercarriage and non-folding wings.
By: GZYL - 15th January 2002 at 19:01
RE: O.k. fess up!
Nope! Just a one off. According to my info source… it proved disappointing in flight testing.
By: SADSACK - 15th January 2002 at 18:50
RE: O.k. fess up!
An airframe presumably that never got to production status?
By: GZYL - 15th January 2002 at 18:27
RE: O.k. fess up!
It’s a fleet shadower… Built by… Was it General Aircraft?
By: SADSACK - 15th January 2002 at 18:02
RE: O.k. fess up!
It looks like a Stirling gone very wrong!