Official: NW orders 18+50 787s

Brilliant news, will look stunning the NWA livery, the 787 is doing amazingly well 🙂

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2005/photorelease/q2/050505g.jpg

No Grey, because the A350 is directed at EK and QR to a lesser extent. 😉

I’m confident EK will order the A350. However if for some extraordinary reason EK order the 787… its lights out for the A350.

EK alone won´t do it. None of the typical european launch customer airlines have yet shown interest in the A350. LH for example has said no to it. They would be interested in a new 747 however. And they are viewing the 787 with interest. “We won´t commit ourselves to just one manufacturer” was my favorite quote.

Not new news,
still my congratulations to Boeing, Northwest Airlines and and the Dreamliner team!

If Boeing keep selling the B787 so sucessfull, at least the front fuselage will be full of airline stickers on first flight! 😀

I agree with you! Airbus is getting beaten everywhere and they have to decide what their next move is going to be. The A350 could be in trouble. It has a lot of ground to make up if it is going to be a success, which at this point, it nowhere near that!

I Guess in time we will see wether boeing’s strategy of banking on increased P2P travel holds water…however for now we really cannot deny the success that the 787 has had in little over a year since its launch..CONGRATULATIONS to boeing and the entire Dreamliner team.

So here is how the current orders and commitments stand up.
20 airlines around the world have announced 255 orders and commitments for the 787

“””ANA, Air New Zealand, Blue Panorama Airlines, First Choice Airways, Primaris Airlines, Japan Airlines, Continental Airlines, Vietnam Airlines, Xiamen Airlines, Shanghai Airlines, Hainan Airlines, China Southern Airlines, China Eastern, Air China, Ethiopian Airlines, Icelandair, Korean Air Lines, Air Canada, Air India, Northwest Airlines. “””

No Grey, because the A350 is directed at EK and QR to a lesser extent. 😉

I’m confident EK will order the A350. However if for some extraordinary reason EK order the 787… its lights out for the A350.

I agree with you! Airbus is getting beaten everywhere and they have to decide what their next move is going to be. The A350 could be in trouble. It has a lot of ground to make up if it is going to be a success, which at this point, it nowhere near that!

Congrats to NW…and a well done to Boeing.

Not that you guys couldn’t go to the Boeing site for yourselves, but here anyhow:

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2005/q2/nr_050505g.html
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2005/photorelease/q2/pr_050505g.html

Yes, I can see the sense in what tenthije says.

It gets my vote – which is pretty appropriate at the moment! :D:D:D

You are trying to compare the aviation world today with that of 30 years ago. Sorry, but thats like apples and oranges. Post 9/11 the industry is a whole different animal. The industry has evolved. As more and more of the general public have become able to fly, more and more services are being flown point to point. This is the market that the 787 is based upon. Well, the 787-8 and 787-9 anyway.

I realise the world prior to 9/11 is different than it is now. But after 9/11 the types I mentioned where just as available as they where prior to 9/11. In fact, so many where parked it could be argued that immediatly after 9/11 the planes and their crews where more readily available then they ever where! So by your reasoning there should now be loads of 757s/767s/330s going from point to point bypassing hubs.

However, that did not happen did it? Really the only airline that has opened routes to 2nd tier airports on a somewhat large scale is Continental since they now fly to pretty much every airstrip in the UK. And even those flights are as far as I know all to CO hubs. So still not point to point but more point to hub.

There will probably be point to point flights, but not nearly on the scale that Boeing thinks/hopes will happen. And probably not with large types either.

Personally I see the point to point market developing mostly for smaller planes like the BBJ and the ACJ. Think for instance of the Lufthansa/Privatair combo flying ACJs between DUS and New York and Chicago. Or Air France flying F100s (to be replaced by ACJs) between France and select oil destinations in the middle east.

Why? Because you say so? :D:D:D

No Grey, because the A350 is directed at EK and QR to a lesser extent. 😉

I’m confident EK will order the A350. However if for some extraordinary reason EK order the 787… its lights out for the A350.

Just because more 787s are ordered does not necessarily mean that the point to point strategy is true. If point to point is indeed the way of the future, why did it not happen earlier when the 757 came out, or when the 767 came out, or when the 330 came out?

Sure the range of the 787 is larger making more cities connectable. But why would those cities suddenly bolster the point to point idea when the previous planes did not?

The 787 will be a great plane don’t get me wrong. It will also be a success from the looks of it. But it will still most likely be flying from point to hub. Or from hub to hub.

You are trying to compare the aviation world today with that of 30 years ago. Sorry, but thats like apples and oranges. Post 9/11 the industry is a whole different animal. The industry has evolved. As more and more of the general public have become able to fly, more and more services are being flown point to point. This is the market that the 787 is based upon. Well, the 787-8 and 787-9 anyway.

Therefor it is reasonable to assume that as the 787 is selling so well, the point to point strategy has merit to it.

Hub and Spoke will always remain. Thats a given. But point to point is gaining strength and will, I beleive, gradualy become an integral part of the industry.

As I expected. Still good news though 😀
Boeings point to point strategy is gaining good ground.

Just because more 787s are ordered does not necessarily mean that the point to point strategy is true. If point to point is indeed the way of the future, why did it not happen earlier when the 757 came out, or when the 767 came out, or when the 330 came out?

Sure the range of the 787 is larger making more cities connectable. But why would those cities suddenly bolster the point to point idea when the previous planes did not?

The 787 will be a great plane don’t get me wrong. It will also be a success from the looks of it. But it will still most likely be flying from point to hub. Or from hub to hub.

Why? Because you say so? :D:D:D

As I expected. Still good news though 😀
Boeings point to point strategy is gaining good ground.

Only EK and QR to go now. IF either goes for the 787 too Airbus will have to re-evaluate the A350.