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OK Luftwaffe experts…

..here is a seat that I owned in the mid 1970’s. It had German data plates and originally had come from Cranfield, so it might be from one of the evaluation airframes/structures that arrived there post war.

Unfortunately it was the only item that would spring a trade I was desperate to make happen and it went.

Any ideas as to aircraft type and location therein? 🙂

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By: trumper - 7th January 2005 at 11:10

Even with a parachute and flying clobber on it looks blooming uncomfortable for long periods of being strapped into.

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By: Mark12 - 7th January 2005 at 08:13

I’ll take that third. As it was a stab in the dark. After all, me books are all at sea…!

JDK

Only Joachim. 🙂 I’ll settle for a Ju88.

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By: Puukka - 7th January 2005 at 07:26

Well, I doubt, that it is from a JU 388 because of two reasons:
The Ju 88 had a later pilot seat, which also covered the pilot´s head with it´s shape. That one I found looking like Mark´s was an “early” Ju 88 seat.
I guess, Ju 388 came later and so they didn´t use the early seat anymore. Also the small part of a Ju 388 seat I can see on some pictures won´t fit.

But who know´s? That´s after all only speculation. :confused:
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By: JDK - 6th January 2005 at 23:53

I’ll take that third. As it was a stab in the dark. After all, me books are all at sea…!

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By: Mark12 - 6th January 2005 at 23:09

Wow! I guessed right! (Allows self a smug moment…)

“Third of a kill laddie, third of a kill”.

It might be from the the JU388L referred to as at Cranfield by Jeepman. 🙂

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By: JDK - 6th January 2005 at 17:33

Wow! I guessed right! (Allows self a smug moment…)

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By: Mark12 - 6th January 2005 at 09:35

Ju88. Excellent.

Thank you all.

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By: Puukka - 6th January 2005 at 09:13

Ju 88 seat

Hello Mark
When I take a look at that picture of the Ju 88 R-1 in Hendon then I would think we´ve got it. 🙂
See also the Ju 88 exibition in Gardermoen, you will find your seat at the most left picture. 😀
Museum Gardermoen
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By: JDK - 6th January 2005 at 02:06

Ju88 or similar? Just a guess & a bump…

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By: Distiller - 5th January 2005 at 21:13

That’s not a fighter seat.

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By: Puukka - 5th January 2005 at 20:36

I just took a look at the book but there is almost no picture showing the whole seat. So we´ll see.
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By: Puukka - 5th January 2005 at 20:31

Well, Peter Cohausz himself is a member of the Luftwaffe Forum. He is often giving geat infos, so could work this time, too.
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By: jeepman - 5th January 2005 at 19:41

Snap

Mark 12 – you beat me to it – in 109s isn’t the seat attached to the rear cockpit bulkhead – so I was going to suggest Bomber, Recce or Maritime instead where the seat is floor mounted.

if it came from Cranfield then it follows that it might be salvaged from one of the LW aircraft that appeared there after the war – the Ju 388L might be the most likely candidate in such circumstances

Otherwise it might just be part of the 1000 tons (!!!) of LW equipment garnered and shipped to Cranfield as part of Operation Medico – including trial pieces – is the seat back more reclined than the norm??

This might provide you with an answer though

GERMAN AIRCRAFT COCKPITS 1911-1970. by , Peter W. Cohausz Publisher: Schiffer Military History.

Either that or perhaps Mikael could help

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By: Puukka - 5th January 2005 at 19:31

Just posted

Allright, I´ll keep you updated.
See you on the 19th of March in Shoreham? :confused:
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By: Mark12 - 5th January 2005 at 19:15

Hello Mark

A posting in the Luftarchiv Forum
might be a good idea.
Should I post it for you?

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Herbert

Hello Herbert,

Yes please. Most appreciated.

Will you please advise the result?

My own view is that it is unlikely to be an Me109 seat where the pilot effectively sits on the fuel tank. There is too much available fuel space under that seat frame I suspect. I favour a transport or a bomber where a flat flight deck is more likely to prevail.

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By: Puukka - 5th January 2005 at 19:08

Hello Mark

A posting in the Luftarchiv Forum
might be a good idea.
Should I post it for you?

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By: DazDaMan - 5th January 2005 at 18:07

Looks like ‘109 to me – IIRC the pilot sits at quite a reclined angle, when compared to, say, a Spit or Hurricane.

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By: JonathanF - 5th January 2005 at 17:44

Off-hand, it looks too curved at the head to be 109e, but I could be wrong. I certainly don’t have any suggestions of my own at first look. I’d have a look at our 109 but I have to get on the road I’m afraid.

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By: HP57 - 5th January 2005 at 16:35

Looks like early 109 (E) to me.

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