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I found a few unmounted slides at the bottom of a box today, still in there
sleeves.Any of these aircraft still about. Taken at Man/Air 🙂
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By: R J A Taylor - 31st May 2005 at 00:25

Yes 522/FD was XA411. Courtesy of Air-Britain’s excellent “FAA Fixed-wing aircraft since 1946”, its history can be summaised as:
First flew Ringway 19/4/56. Delivered ………………..

Many thanks ‘Consul’ –
Very grateful for this confirmation (and that my eyes weren’t deceiving me !).

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By: Consul - 30th May 2005 at 23:54

Yes 522/FD was XA411. Courtesy of Air-Britain’s excellent “FAA Fixed-wing aircraft since 1946”, its history can be summaised as:
First flew Ringway 19/4/56. Delivered to RDU Anthorn for storage 2/5/56. 700 Sqdn Ford (522/FD, 501/FD) 23/7/56. Engine overheated on start up, turbine blades damaged. Cat SS 10/5/57 . RNAY Donibristle 22/9/57. AHU Abbotsinch 28/7/58, sold for scrap to James N. Connell Ltd, Coatbridge 13/12/60 noted on scrap heap 1/62.

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By: R J A Taylor - 30th May 2005 at 23:41

LANCASTER PHOTO

The Lancaster and the TBM were surely out of service with the RAF and RN by 1958. These have more of a 1954/56 look about them possibly from St Mawgan.

I suspect these images cover a period of mid to late 1950’s
Mark

Mark,

The Lanc. is certainly ‘SW283’ (H-Q) of 1.MRS (School of Maritime Reconnaissance – Formed June 1951 and disbanded September 1956) based at St. Mawgan. She was also with 210 Sqdn. as ‘OZ-L’.

Hope this is of help.

Just as an added point of interest, and confusion (!) I have two conflicting reports as to where, and by whom, this Lanc. was built. :confused:

One source states :

Built by ‘Metropolitan Vickers’ at their Trafford Park, Manchester (Mosley Road Works).’Metropolitan-Vickers’ (or ‘Metrovick’) was a British heavy industrial firm previously known as ‘British Westinghouse’.

In 1938 ‘Metrovick’ negotiated a contract with A.V. Roe to build the Avro Manchester under license. Metrovick eventually supplied 1,000 of the Manchester’s offspring, the Avro Lancaster.”

The second source advises differently :

“Serial Batch : SW283-SW295
Part of the sixth production batch of 13 aircraft built by ‘Sir W.G. Armstrong Whitworth Aircraft Ltd.’ at Whitley, Coventry (Deliveries commenced 5/45; completed 6/45) ……”

CAN ANYONE SHED A DEFINITIVE LIGHT ON WHICH ACCOUNT IS CORRECT, PLEASE.

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By: R J A Taylor - 30th May 2005 at 21:02

GANNET PHOTO

The Gannet was from 700NAS, when it was a trials and requirements squadron, based at RNAS Ford from 18/8/1955. If it is WN453 then it was declared a ground instruction class I airframe at RNAS Yeovilton on 7/8/1956, subsequently becoming A2436.

Flood

Flood, I’ve tried to enhance photo of the Gannet ‘522/FD’ to get a clearer idea of the serial – it seems to my eyes to read ‘XA411’ – any ideas? :confused:

Although not strictly my field (no merlins !!!!!!) I would be interested in its history if I’m right – anybody ??

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By: Mark12 - 30th May 2005 at 12:05

Are you MAD?

The Avenger was from MAD at Bramcote, 1956-57 (although I haven’t yet discovered what MAD stood for, although a similarly numbered Dominie was from the station flight at the same time).
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In ‘RoyalNavySpeak’:

1) Midlands Air Division.

2) Magnetic Anomaly Detection.

For Bramcote, I favour the former.

Source: Air Britain – Fleet Air Arm Fixed Wing Aircraft since 1946.

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By: Flood - 30th May 2005 at 11:51

The Avenger was from MAD at Bramcote, 1956-57 (although I haven’t yet discovered what MAD stood for, although a similarly numbered Dominie was from the station flight at the same time).
The Gannet was from 700NAS, when it was a trials and requirements squadron, based at RNAS Ford from 18/8/1955. If it is WN453 then it was declared a ground instruction class I airframe at RNAS Yeovilton on 7/8/1956, subsequently becoming A2436.
If the picture quality was better we might be to see the serial on the Otter. I imagine that it is XL710, used on the British Commonwealth Trans-Antartic Expedition of 1956 since it fits in with the time-line; it became BuAer 147574 and NZ6081.
The ‘flat iron’ is a FAW4, part of a batch delivered between 3/1956 and 4/1957, serving with 23 and 72 Sqns. It was DBR at RAF Leconfield 27/10/1960 when the jet pipe split and the aircraft overheated during a run up.
The Hunter is XG131 – the test airframe for unsuccessful wingtip tanks – which was exhibited at SBAC Farnborough in 1956 (alongside a Firefly drone…).

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By: ALBERT ROSS - 30th May 2005 at 09:45

I spent several days during Farnboro’ week 1958, peddling between Blackbushe to see the visitors and Laffans Plain to watch the show.

I think I would have noted and photographed a pair of Lancasters and and a TBM.

The Lancaster and the TBM were surely out of service with the RAF and RN by 1958. These have more of a 1954/56 look about them possibly from St Mawgan.

I suspect these images cover a period of mid to late 1950’s

Nice to see them. We need more like this. 🙂

Mark

Yes, sure you’re right. I was thinking they were all taken at the same time, but 1956 seems more appropriate for the Avenger and Lancaster as Air Pictorial reports both at Blackbushe then.

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By: Mark12 - 30th May 2005 at 09:30

Hold on there.

I spent several days during Farnboro’ week 1958, peddling between Blackbushe to see the visitors and Laffans Plain to watch the show.

I think I would have noted and photographed a pair of Lancasters and and a TBM.

The Lancaster and the TBM were surely out of service with the RAF and RN by 1958. These have more of a 1954/56 look about them possibly from St Mawgan.

I suspect these images cover a period of mid to late 1950’s

Nice to see them. We need more like this. 🙂

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By: Bruggen 130 - 30th May 2005 at 00:02

I would definately say Blackbushe and some at Farnborough all in September 1958.

No dates for the these B/W shots Albert but your probably right.
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By: ALBERT ROSS - 29th May 2005 at 23:55

I would definately say Blackbushe and some at Farnborough all in September 1958.

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By: Bruggen 130 - 28th May 2005 at 19:13

Fascinating stuff! Any more of the Firefly drone, or the Avenger?
Thanks for sharing 🙂 (PS That is a nice looking Twin Pin!)

No thats the lot i’m afraid.
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By: Will J - 28th May 2005 at 18:46

Fascinating stuff! Any more of the Firefly drone, or the Avenger?
Thanks for sharing 🙂 (PS That is a nice looking Twin Pin!)

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By: Sonnenflieger - 24th March 2005 at 07:23

This aircraft was actually dellivered to SAS as LN-MOU. It then went to Thai before taken over by Sterling.

…who registered it as OY-SBK.

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By: Sonnenflieger - 24th March 2005 at 07:23

This aircraft was actually dellivered to SAS as LN-MOU. It then went to Thai before taken over by Sterling.

…who registered it as OY-SBK.

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By: greekdude1 - 24th March 2005 at 02:08

Great quality! Fantastic nostalgic shots providing a good change of pace.

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By: greekdude1 - 24th March 2005 at 02:08

Great quality! Fantastic nostalgic shots providing a good change of pace.

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By: LN-MOW - 24th March 2005 at 01:28

This aircraft was actually dellivered to SAS as LN-MOU. It then went to Thai before taken over by Sterling.

http://airlines.afriqonline.com/images/sarah335.jpg
(Unknown photographer)

Scanair took it in 86 or 87 …

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By: LN-MOW - 24th March 2005 at 01:28

This aircraft was actually dellivered to SAS as LN-MOU. It then went to Thai before taken over by Sterling.

http://airlines.afriqonline.com/images/sarah335.jpg
(Unknown photographer)

Scanair took it in 86 or 87 …

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By: Bruggen 130 - 23rd March 2005 at 19:54

Oh, how nice! The DC-8-63 seems to be N794AL, formerly OY-SBK of SAS/Scanair which was operated by TransOcean between May and December of 1989. Sadly it crashed in Toledo in 1992 whilst flying for Burlington Air Express…

Hi
I just looked at the slide, it is N794AL so it’s not seen the light of day for 16
years at least 🙂
Thanks for that.
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By: Bruggen 130 - 23rd March 2005 at 19:54

Oh, how nice! The DC-8-63 seems to be N794AL, formerly OY-SBK of SAS/Scanair which was operated by TransOcean between May and December of 1989. Sadly it crashed in Toledo in 1992 whilst flying for Burlington Air Express…

Hi
I just looked at the slide, it is N794AL so it’s not seen the light of day for 16
years at least 🙂
Thanks for that.
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