Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome – USA

Ailerons.

F6F
Thanks for answering the ailerons question.
I’ve often wondered about that.
Cheers
Andy 🙂

No problem.

Thanks for the update ref the replicas. A very impressive collection indeed.

Aw hell… looks like this is another place I’ve got to go and visit in the US then. 😉 Problem is, how to fit Reno, Wright-Patterson, and Dulles into the same trip. And of course the missis is going to want to go see her mates in Houston… Ah well, we’ll just have to go more than once. Might take a few years though… 😀

Really excellent pictures, F6F. Many thanks for posting, we get photos from your side of the Atlantic posted all too rarely here. Do you have any of older aircraft at museums or airshows in Brasil that you could post here? I’m sure we’d love to see some, that sort of variety is what makes this forum so special.

I really love the ones of the Bleriot, a nice complement to the ones of the Shuttleworth one that many of us saw ‘hopping’ across the airfield there yesterday.

Once again. thanks for posting. Where will the article that you mentioned be published? Perhaps you could post a link here when it appears.

I will post the link Mike, rest assured. And I have pics from antique airplanes at museums here, but they were all taken with a film camera, and are not good. I really need to find some time to pay a new visit and take some digi pics of them. I´ll let you know when that happens.

Am I right in thinking that most of the aircraft are replicas?

That´s not entirely true. It´s about 50/50. In the pics above, the Bleriot XI, Curtiss Pusher, Curtiss Jenny, Standard D-25, and the Stampe are all original machines. The Nieuport XI isn´t, but has an original engine. The Tiger Moth, the two Great Lakes, and the Waco aren´t replicas either. Only the WWI machines are mostly replicas, but some have original engines (like the Fokker D.VII, Sopwith Camel, and the aforementioned Nieuport).

Can anyone tell me if the shoulder pads are the rudder bar or elevators?

Ailerons. Glenn Curtiss was a motorbike driver, so he wanted to make turns the same way he did with his motorbike. Hence the shoulder pads for lateral control – he just had to move to the side he wanted to go.

Cheers all for your nice words.

Excellent photographs F6F.

Mrs AIB.

MOTF
I’ll pass on your kind words to Mrs AIB.
A forum meet at Old Rhinebeck does seem a jolly good idea.
I can’t believe I’ve never been there.
Cheers
Andy 🙂 🙂 🙂

His wife lays on a great Picnic as well. Thanks Mrs A I B.

Comments..

F6F
I speak as I find mate.
The pictures were good and I like the subject material.
I think the term Golden Flyer might have been given to one specific aircraft of the Curtiss pusher type.
Neat design though.
Can anyone tell me if the shoulder pads are the rudder bar or elevators?

This type of aircraft made the first take off from a ship on November 14th 1910 when Eugene Ely flew one off a temporary flight deck on the USS Birmingham (CL-2).
On January 18th 1911 Ely also made the first succesful landing on a ship when he landed on the USS Pennsylvania (again a temporary flight deck).
Strangely Ely was a civilian working for Glen Curtiss and not a member of the USN.
Andrew O will tell you that I’m full of this useless information.
🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

Nice photos, good to see the spirit of Cole Palen is alive and well.

Am I right in thinking that most of the aircraft are replicas? Not that it matters if they are. I’m sure a replica Bleriot is just as difficult to fly as a real one.

Sounds like a wonderful place. Forum meet anyone? (perhaps on the way to Reno :D)

Septic – the collection is OK now, according to people who I talked to which are responsible for managing it. They had a few problems in the past (among these was that the funding for the Spirit of St. Louis replica they are building dried up after 2002), but things are looking better now. BTW, this airplane, which is almost complete, looks really neat!

Andy – the Curtiss Golden Flyer is called the Curtiss Pusher, and it´s an original machine (like the Bleriot XI). I don´t care about the stars either, because that´s a reflection of who´s posting here, not what´s posted here, if you understand what I mean. But I´m OK with that, and won´t hide the fact I post my pics on UKAR regularly.

For more pics, as I said, access the UKAR forum, or wait for a report about this airshow which will be on the web shortly. 🙂 And many thanks for your comments – they are very much appreciated.

Old Rhinbeck…

I’ve been close to the place but never got there yet.
Love these pictures, especially the Curtis Golden Flyer.
I couldn’t care less about giving stars to threads. I like these pictures and they contrast well with the OW stuff posted elsewhere.
Got any more???
Andy. 🙂 🙂 🙂

Superb, Thanks for posting F6F,

I must make the effort to get to Old Rheinbeck, especially now the flights are so cheap to the US.

Is the collection Ok now as I had heard they were having a few problems.

Septic.

Nice looking pictures there F6F. I have been to NY state many times but never heard of the place till now. Next time I am over there I’ll have to make the visit.

Molson

P.S. don’t know why people have voted these down to 3 stars. Theres nothing wrong with them.

Nice shots and thanks for sharing – nice to see something different!!