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Open Letter to Both Forums from Rob Rohr

Hello All,

Well I’ve decide to write this open letter because of things that have happen over the past couple of days on both the Flypast and Wix Forum.

I have received many e-mails from various people from the Flypast Forum asking me to return and I’ve also received e-mails asking if Cees and I are at War with each other over some sort of Crash recovery.

So let me address the whole Cees thing. I’ve never have had the opportunity to meet or talk with Cees, with that said I have NO problem with Cees on the contrast Cees I respected everything you have been able to do and you might not believe it but I support your views on missing aircrew and the UK Stupid policies. I really mean it when I say I hope you get the Halifax out and I look forward in reading it on your website. Maybe sometime in the Future I could join you in the Mud and Muck to help you do a recovery. It would be my Honor to say I was their when Cees and gang pulled out whatever.

Now I would like to address some items that are perceived by Old Time Forum members on both boards.

The whole Maine Snowball Militia thing, A little back ground for the Flypast group. The Whole thing started on the old board before Scott change to the new Software. Their was a thread that Ollie started and I made a comment about how much snow Quebec receives and Scott comes back talking about how I should talk. You all have to understand when this thread was going on the Greater Boston Area was receiving some of the worst Snow Storms in years and Scott says that every time he hits the Maine/New Hampshire Border it starts Snowing and that I have let loss the Snowball Militia on Mass. Well as you can guess this lead to some fun had by all. After the thread died down out of nowhere come Mr. John Parker with this whole Snowball Arms photos well yes it stuck and yes I kept it. First let me State that I do not condone any form shape the on going Militia problems we have here in the States. I’m sorry if some of you don’t get the inside joke but I don’t get the whole Pommy thing either.

As for some people posting too much over on the Wix Board well guys I don’t see anyone starting any of the threads I see over on the Flypast forum. I look forward to the Photo Contest that Mark12 and Papa Lima and other on Flypast put up. Does this mean that Wix should be a Flypast Clone No but it would be nice to see some of these things. Now yes I respond to a good number of threads but I don’t see you Old Timers complaining about Flypast Guys who post Stuff. Could this be you just Don’t Like Me.

Now For the whole US Navy thing.

For those who don’t know On the Weekend of Nov.18-20 2004 there will be the first ever Navy/Warbird meeting to try to work out are differences How this came about is a thread over on the Wix Board Title Lake Michigan Recoveries. Well to say it got heated is an understatement.. The long and short of it I along with Mike Rawson who is restoring a SB2C/A-25 are heading up this Historic Meeting. Yes guys I’m very passionate about my stance with the Navy but if you read the post you will understand why. Do I go over the top on this subject Yes and No. Yes I can get out of hand with my responses but you must also understand that the US Navy decides to send Naval Investigation Service to question me about something they had No right to do. For all of my Non-Americans Warbird friends who don’t understand that the US Navy Policy is the Single Worst Governmental Policy that affects you then I must tell you talk with Aussie Guys about the items off the Coast it was the US Navy who threaten to send down a Carrier task force and park it over the Dump Site. The Navy ownership claims that a lot of you don’t understand do affect your Country I’ve read and heard so many times that European guys have found an US Navy Plane in the Med. But where told by there respect Governments not to touch or they will have the Raff of the US Navy. That is why I’m so passionate about trying to change the policy.

Everyone we need to take a step back and look at ourselves that includes me especially, to bring in Politics to are hobby is a bad idea right or wrong the United States and its many Allies are at War. I will not tell you my views nor do I care to hear yours because all this leads to is where we are now. Which is people are leaving the respect boards and that’s not good for anyone.

I’ve had a chance over the past few years to meet and talk with many Wix and Flypast members for those who were with us at Genesseo that was one of the Greatest times I’ve had in along time. These are the things I look forward meeting a greeting you guys and get Drunk with Eric, Ryan and Scott I look forward to are next get together. I also look forward to the many photos that everyone puts up. To the guys Down-Under and Across the pond seeing your photos make me double my efforts to visit theses great shows. Have guys like John Parker and Steve Patterson go over and visit helps everyone. As a personal note to John I would like to thank you for all of the phone calls and I look forward to meeting you next year. As for Mr. Patterson, Steve your e-mail to me about the upcoming Navy meeting help put things into perspective and your other e-mail to me about flying the T-6 from the back-seat was not only enlighten but helpful( you fail to mention that I have to come in at sort of an angle for landing Ha Ha).

I would also like to thank the many Forum members who have come forward and help me with contacts for the books. For those who aren’t aware I’m working on two Books one is about the Foreign Operations of Corsairs, a few I would like to single out Tulio from the Wix board, Rob Mears both boards Mark Morrison Both Boards DaveMC2 again both Boards. The other Book I’m working on is on the Early Warbird Owners and Operators, this book I’ve receive so many e-mails on contact I find it hard to single out anyone but three people I need to say a big thank you to are Mark12, D1ck Phillips(for Connie Edwards) Paul Coggan (Mr.Warbirds himself) all members of both boards with out these three gentlemen I would have No contacts for a lot of the English and Aussie owners.

In closing I would like to say that if I have offend or Rub someone the wrong way with my Yank style I’m truly sorry and if you would like I have a request if you would like to have a nice chat then please e-mail me at [email]b25j@maine.rr.com[/email] your Telp.# and the best time to call and I will spend the Dime to have the talk.

Sincerely Your Humble Servant
Robert”Crazyamainer/The Col.” Rohr

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By: Whitley_Project - 14th September 2004 at 10:03

Both boards are all the richer for a person with the fire and enthusiasm that Rob obviously has in spades. That we dont always all agree with him is irrelevant – we need more people like this to ensure the movement as a whole continues to move forward, and not, as I am increasingly concerned it will, stagnate, and sink back into the mire.

Keep posting Rob – if I dont agree with you, I wont reply. If I do, you will hear from me!

Cheers

Bruce

I’m with you Bruce

It doesn’t matter if we agree or not – everyone is entitle to their opinion. I always find your posts entertaining Rob – keep it up!

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By: HP57 - 14th September 2004 at 08:31

Rob,

I wholehartedly agree with everyone who responded to your open letter.

I am pleasantly surprised and amazed by the contents of it. It takes a lot of courage to express yourself that way. I have the hightest of respect for that.

Things have got a bit out of hand but I just want to make clear that it hasn’t been my intention to insult you, Scott, the USA or anyone else on this forum. The WIX is and has been a very good source of pleasure and information in the past and still is.

I just wanted to let you know that I believe passionately in what I do regarding warbirds etc. Sometimes it goes just too deep and it can get a bit sensitive, but I have never made personal attacks before. Neither do I get out of the way of discussion for that matter.

I apologize that I got tempted to wander off topic and I assure it will never happen again. I have said earlier during the heated debate that I don’t have anything against Rob and I respect his actions about the Navy,
his personal achievements in the warbird community as a whole and I for one would like to get copies of his books as they seem to offer a great deal of interesting information. If I ever may have the chance to meet Rob in person, drinks are on me.

If there are differences of opinion regarding the way how to do it, that’s just a matter of life, but may not be an issue.

I hope to have cleared up things.

From the heart (as always).

Cheers

Cees

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By: Bruce - 14th September 2004 at 08:20

Both boards are all the richer for a person with the fire and enthusiasm that Rob obviously has in spades. That we dont always all agree with him is irrelevant – we need more people like this to ensure the movement as a whole continues to move forward, and not, as I am increasingly concerned it will, stagnate, and sink back into the mire.

Keep posting Rob – if I dont agree with you, I wont reply. If I do, you will hear from me!

Cheers

Bruce

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By: STORMBIRD262 - 14th September 2004 at 03:43

Good on you Rob

Interesting stuff Rob 🙂 , I have read about the happenings over there when raising a Navy warbird in Hunting Warbirds by Carl Hoffman :rolleyes: , Heavy stuff 😮 , Then I remembered the lost Sqd off Queensland just sitting there rotting on the sea floor 🙁 , I wish you all the luck getting the U.S. Navy to ease up on this issue, Seems way over the top after all the years that have passed since W.W.2., Is the Lend/lease thing still an issue in this matter :confused: , Or just Navy pride and Politics :p , Cheers Rob 😉 , Good luck with the books too, Tally Ho! Phil. :diablo:

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By: Peter - 14th September 2004 at 03:19

Rob.
Nice letter.. does this mean you are rescinding your decision to leave? Sorry I do not know all the history of the thread and posts etc that you refer to but hopefully everyone can turn over and start a new page??

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