P/O Peter Edward George Carter – KOAS -18th Oct 1940

Hello, I have attached a link to sale at Sotheby’s earlier this year, lot 435, of a family memento regarding F/O Peter Carter which I hope members will find of interest.

http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2014/english-literature-history-childrens-books-illustrations-l14404/lot.435.html

Brian

No I am sure she would not mind and be very proud to honour his memory. She lit a candle to his memory yesterday 74 years on…

Hi Brian,
Many thanks for that interesting recollection.

Do you think she would mind if I forwarded it to a friend who runs the www.bbm.org.uk website
It would be good to include it in Carter’s entry.

regards

Gerry

Hello, below is Brenda Telander’s personal recollection’s of that day in 1940. It is poignant and a reminder of what events people encountered whilst going about their everyday lives.

‘I was sent on an errand by my mother to collect a 1lb of sausage’s which she had ordered in advance from the butchers. Instead of returning via Manor Lane, I decided to go via French Street instead. I turned left in to Staines Road and was walking towards White Lodge Garage. On the corner was a café and as I continued walking there was a very loud explosion. The first plane came down very fast and blew up on impact setting the fence and tree’s alight. Then a second plane came and was breaking up, bits seemed to fall in the field near by, and as I stood there a pilot fell from the sky landing about 25 -30 feet in front of me. There was no movement but his parachute had been deployed as it came down over his body.

I was so shocked at what I had seen I was rooted to the spot.

Then bullets started to explode and were firing in all directions. A Warden then picked me up to remove me from the danger. Once he put me down I ran home the way I should have gone via Manor lane.

When I got home I told my mother what I had seen. She scolded me for not coming back the way I should have. When she saw the sausages she noticed that my fingers had pierced the skin of two of them from the shock of what I had seen. She said those two will be for you for tomorrow nights dinner.’ I was 10 years old in 1940.

To date…

Brenda added. ‘French Street still exists but White Lodge Garage and the café have gone. The field now has houses and flats. there is a turning in to Batavia Road from Staines Road nearly opposite where the planes crashed. the fence has been re built and trees have grown up there.

Where this happened is still open ground – it would be nice to have a plaque there to commemorate two brave men.’

Thanks Brian

Hi Brian,
I would also like to read the account of what happened that day.
Regards

Gerry

Hello, and thank you all for your replies. I have spoken to Brenda Telander, the lady in question, who was 10 years old at the time. She is writing her account now which I hope to post towards the end of next week.

Regards

Brian

Hi Brian,
I would also like to read the account of what happened that day.
Regards

Gerry

John porter Lawes and Cyril vincent lawes were brothers of Edith Eugene W Lawes b1882 – d unknown.
who married Henry George (Harry) Carter in 1918.

Had two sons
Peter E G Carter 1919 – 1940
Michael A Carter 1925 –

Doubt if any Aunts still alive, as in 1911 Ediths sisters were Cissie 19, Kathleen 18 and Connie 11. but could have been in the 90s.

The account posted here would at the very least commemorate his sacrifice for a few more years.

Moggy

Hi Brian,
Felt I should reply before this thread drops off the front page.
To me, it is the personal recollections of these times that make this forum. Although a little gruesome in it’s subject mater this would serve as a reminder to those of us who weren’t alive back then as to what people went through at the time.
Please feel free to add Brenda’s story.

Many thanks for taking the time to reply,

John

Hello, I should just like to say that I have some information that I am sure is of interest to you regarding the above incident. I currently work with a lady Brenda, who is 83, who witnessed the terrible incident back in October 1940. As a child heading home she saw Flying Officer Peter Carter hit the ground, something which as you can imagine has stayed with her all her life. If you wish I can ask her to give a detailed description of the event, which she has already relayed to me verbally, and is remarkable.

Regards

Brian

Hi Hurricane 40

Just seen this looking at PEG Carter again.

I think this is his mothers side of the family. I think his father died in the 50’s but his mother livd intil the 80’s? An aunt was still alive in the 90’s. Could not locate any log books/photos though the dairy entry and newspaper was great to read.

Mark