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P1/S or Pu/t ?

Wondering if anyone can clear up a little bit of confusion for me. My dual tailwheel conversion time is shown in my logbook as Pu/t, but according to my flying club it should be in as P1/S.

I can see both viewpoints: Clacton told me it’s Pu/t, and from what I can tell that could be seen as correct because it was flown with an instructor; yet my flying club tell me Pu/t should only be used for Student Pilots, therefore as an existing PPL I should have logged the time as P1/S.

I’m confused (it doesn’t take much!). So, who’s right? And was it P1/S or Pu/t…?

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By: Lowtimer - 20th September 2004 at 18:02

Yep, it was P/UT and you logged it correctly. If you had done it as P1, not at that point having been signed off for tailwheel differences training, you would have been exceeding the privileges of your licence. Same comes when you are doing your retract gear, supercharger, CS prop, etc etc. Obviously also the case for IMC training, MEP, night, or anything else that varies your licence, rating(s) or counts as part of your licence in that sense.

You may point out to whoever said “students only” that that one may on many occasions be a student with a licence.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 20th September 2004 at 17:26

Well that all seems to make perfect sense, and means a) it’s been entered correctly and b) I don’t have to get the tippex out!

A now un-confused Steve. 🙂

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By: Moggy C - 20th September 2004 at 16:39

PuT. Can’t be anything else unless the instructor is very generous and allows you to book P1 whilst he books nothing.

P1/S is purely for tests towards a rating.

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By: met24 - 20th September 2004 at 15:34

According to LASORS, a flight by ‘a pilot under instruction for the purpose of gaining a licence or rating, or for conversion to an aircraft type within an aircraft rating group or class’ is to be logged as P/UT and the time recorded as dual. So I think Clacton are right.

Page A37 has the full table if you want to look any closer. There are a number of entries that could in theory be applied to training flights, although the one I quoted above is by far the most specific.

LASORS is a good first reference for this kind of question. There might be further detail in an AIC or in the ANO, but I can’t be bothered to check them right now. I’ve given you the pointers 🙂

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