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P38 in transit

Any info on P38 sealed in black plastic as if for shipping seen on a low loader at 8am 24 September, northbound A12 at Colchester?
Minus wings and booms.

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By: 43-2195 - 7th October 2014 at 08:29

Paul Mc, I have only just read the article you were referring to. I believe it’s only three. The PNG National Museums, The HARs example and the the project listed for sale with Classic Wings/Graham Orphan. What I found interesting was the Reference to Historic Aircraft Restoration Ltd, how does that fit in with the Historic Aircraft Restoration Society ? Seems a bit confusing.

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By: scotavia - 4th October 2014 at 14:21

I found this well illustrated page about the history of 42-66841 useful …http://www.classicjets.com/p38.html

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By: Wondy - 4th October 2014 at 11:56

Thank you! Much appreciated

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By: 43-2195 - 4th October 2014 at 11:50

Wondy, apparently the P-38H-5-LO 42-66841 “Scarlet Scourge” has been sighted being trucked around England. We are waiting for the Classic Jets Flying Museum in Adelaide, Australia to confirm this. It has been on display at their museum for some years now. The thread seems to have been hijacked when Daniel suggested that “We aint seen nothing yet” and Flakbait suggested that Daniel was referring to the Historic Aircraft Restoration Society(HARs) restoring three P-38s in Australia.Which has been reported previous.

So now you are up to date. I guess the question that most interests us, is whether 42-66841 has changed hands or is it being restored to flying condition in the UK(or both).

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By: Wondy - 4th October 2014 at 11:35

Apologies if I am being dense Team (I am most of the time!). I’m just confused reading this thread. It appears we are taking about various p38 restorations.

Can someone clarify if there is one in the UK at the moment?

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By: T J Johansen - 3rd October 2014 at 21:23

Did Ken McBride have that wreck at some stage? Or maybe he was just looking to get it.

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By: skyhawk524 - 3rd October 2014 at 21:18

The airframe that Jeff Ethell went down in, is now owned by Texas Flying Legends. It is currently in line at AirCorps Aviation, with a P-51C and a P-47 in front of it. To the best of my knowledge, TFL owns those two projects as well.

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By: 43-2195 - 3rd October 2014 at 16:35

No. Don’t believe so. I saw that wreckage at HARs, about 2 years ago, but have since read it is back in the states. I think Rob cherry picked the spares he needed and on sold the project.

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By: Mike J - 3rd October 2014 at 15:44

Don’t Precision also have the remains of the aircraft that Jeff Ethell lost his life in too?

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By: 43-2195 - 3rd October 2014 at 15:30

Peter,
That looks like the storage yard outside the Precision Aerospace Productions hangar at Wangarratta in Victoria. And, very difficult to confirm from this angle, but I’m guessing that is Rob Greinert’s P-38G-5-LO 42-12847 “DUMBO” which he recovered from the Terapo airstrip in Gulf Province PNG. Cant recall the Identity of Gerry Yagen’s P-38 project that was also at Wang, but he did have the empennage of P-38H-5-LO 42-66905″”Japanese Sandman II” ( the centre section is still at the Dobodura Air Base in Oro Province PNG). The P-38F-5-LO that HAR’s is doing for the PNG National Museum is 42-12647 “Dottie From Brooklyn”. Not sure what the identity of the third P-38 they have been advertising through Classic Wings will be, but they do have a significant spares holding.
The arrival of P-38H-5-LO 42-66841 in England took me by surprise. Will be interesting if it’s there for restoration or been sold. I would have thought the PNG Government would have attached some restrictive conditions to it’s export.
Great photo. Thanks.

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By: adrian_gray - 3rd October 2014 at 09:53

One careful owner… followed by a shedload of careless ones!

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By: Mark12 - 3rd October 2014 at 09:40

One of several I photographed earlier.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/Mark12/Mark12094/P-38PeterArnold393A2386a_zpsd382ab5b.jpg

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By: paulmcmillan - 3rd October 2014 at 09:01

Its quite possible that the answer to Daniels cryptic “you aint seen nothing yet” post, can be found in the current issue of Classic Wings and pertains to Rob Greinerts initiative to restore three P-38’s. One tatic for the PNG National Museum, One flyer for HARS and another flyer to be on-sold at a later date. Which hardly makes it a secret.

Unless of course there is bigger P-38 restoration initiative currently underway in Australia!

I read this article and I am unsure if it is actually 4 or 3 Projects – it is written as “3” definitely but it indicates possibly enough stuff for maybe a 4th..

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By: Mike J - 3rd October 2014 at 01:00

Those projects have been ongoing for a decade so hardly constitute news, let alone “you ain’t seen nothing yet”

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By: FlakBait - 3rd October 2014 at 00:39

So are you going to tell us what it is Daniel? Or is this another one of those “I know something you don’t, but I’m not going to tell you what it is because it makes me feel important” posts?

Its quite possible that the answer to Daniels cryptic “you aint seen nothing yet” post, can be found in the current issue of Classic Wings and pertains to Rob Greinerts initiative to restore three P-38’s. One tatic for the PNG National Museum, One flyer for HARS and another flyer to be on-sold at a later date. Which hardly makes it a secret.

Unless of course there is bigger P-38 restoration initiative currently underway in Australia!

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By: Wyvernfan - 2nd October 2014 at 20:24

The only thing I can say you aint seen nothing yet “down under”….if this P-38 is considered a “surprise” move.

Fantastic. ‘Winston’ is coming home (just a hopeful guess)!

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By: Mike J - 2nd October 2014 at 17:27

So are you going to tell us what it is Daniel? Or is this another one of those “I know something you don’t, but I’m not going to tell you what it is because it makes me feel important” posts?

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By: Daniel - 2nd October 2014 at 13:08

The only thing I can say you aint seen nothing yet “down under”….if this P-38 is considered a “surprise” move.

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By: 43-2195 - 1st October 2014 at 10:02

Matt, The original restoration was only ever to museum display standard, hence the 23E50s. I suspect most of the sheet metal used wasn’t 2024 standard either(or even aviation grade).

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By: 43-2195 - 1st October 2014 at 09:59

Bruce,They no longer own that airframe.

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