Islamabad – Pakistan carried out ‘a successful’ test of a surface-to-surface nuclear-capable missile with 200-kilometre range in undisclosed location on Sunday.
A statement issued by Pakistan’s Inter-Service Public Relation said the short range, Hatf-II Abdali, was an ‘indigenously developed’ short-range ballistic missile, which could carry nuclear and other types of warheads.
According to last year’s agreement with neighbouring India, it said a prior notification of the test had been given to New Delhi.
The two arch-rivals, Indian and Pakistan, have been routinely carrying out missile tests since the countries conducted tit-for-tat nuclear tests in May 1998.
The two South Asian neighbours, who have fought three wars, have been engaged in a peace process since February 2004 and have taken several steps toward building mutual trust.
© 2006 dpa – Deutsche Presse-Agentur
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By: A-2-S - 27th February 2006 at 09:29
As a Lahorite I’m offended. BTW Lahore actually has fewer beggars than KHI. Isloos another story. Hell atleast it’s cleaner,greener and has better and more good looking buildings and more Parks than Khi.:)
Please accept my humblest appologies for this stance but yet may be your right, it was a light mood kinda remark not the 1 to be taken seriously.
Ny news regarding the BASANT, i heard it sucks after the ban tht has been put on kite flying, updatessssssss Lahoriess
By: A-2-S - 27th February 2006 at 09:23
Surely Pakistan and Afghanistan share a very brotherly relation post soviet invasion and before US led war in Afghanistan.
Before the soviet war the pro communist gov with the help of USSR (former russia) were not very friendly with the Gov of Pakistan and the obvious reason was presence of US base in Pakistan during those times.
Now its the US led gov which claims Pakistan Gov regarding the cross boarder terrorism stance, oh for a moment i thought i was talking about indian gov, oh wait wait yah indeed INDIA in the recent past has establish quite a diplomatic force and personnel presence in Afghanishtan. After all they were the one supporting the Northern Allience.
All this was the Gov – Gov stance. Now lets come to the important issue that is people to people relations. Yes the pakhtoon relation plays very important role. Their are families living between Afghanistan and Pakistan and significant amount of Afghanis who came to Pakistan after war have developed good relations and base to do business from Pakistan. So in the end ill point tht the people to people relation between Pakistan and Afghanistan is much more stronger then the vocal gov announcements made for western and usa media consumption.
Decades of relation on people to people just dont vanish by a change of the Gov. The Gov before was not helping them and the 1 now is not helping them, so for the people nothing changed. I hope some of you would agree with my point.
By: Barbarian - 25th February 2006 at 12:51
1. I think Pakistan did play a ‘small’ part in helping the Afghans against the Soviets, there would never have been so many weapons in Pakistan but for the Afghan War.
2. If Afghans hate Pakistan so much then why do they stay there? Why not return to Afghanistan or go in live in their beloved India?
The only reason Pakistan supported the Taliban was because 1. They are ethic Pustoon and 2. Having a relatively stable Afghanistan ruled by the Taliban was considered better than having an unstable Afghanistan engaged in all out civil war.
Aziz
No my brother!
1. If Taliban was recognized as legal goverment of Afghanistan by U.N then there was chance that Pakistan-taliban do a deal and Afghanistan forget about Durand Line.
2. There was pressure over pakistan to support taliban from Top Boss.
And sure Afghan people love india and bollywood but we also love pakistan people too!
The only thing remain is Dark memories from **** help to Taliban!
If if you have anything to say plz post it in general forum.
I think you understand this is not the right place to talk about Afghanistan-Pakistan relation.
🙂
By: star49 - 25th February 2006 at 02:21
Grouth of a country dosent have to do anything with Islamic idealogy! see Malaysia!
i know there ethinic mix and beliefs. but i doubt u understand this difference. so there is no point in explaining this.
Ahhaah you have no clue my friend about Pakistan and Afghanistan relations!
You better study a lil bit about Pashtunistan before throwing those nonsenses.
surely i dont know these things. :rolleyes: and Pak didnot import people from outside to rule over afghanistan. they were same afghans who got money and believed on certain ideology. they could have rejected the money and ideology but they were greedy. similar is the case of Pak it also made mistakes by sucking too much to arabs. (which in turn were following some one else agenda).
but any way u have to look into future.
By: Aziz - 24th February 2006 at 23:05
1. I think Pakistan did play a ‘small’ part in helping the Afghans against the Soviets, there would never have been so many weapons in Pakistan but for the Afghan War.
2. If Afghans hate Pakistan so much then why do they stay there? Why not return to Afghanistan or go in live in their beloved India?
The only reason Pakistan supported the Taliban was because 1. They are ethic Pustoon and 2. Having a relatively stable Afghanistan ruled by the Taliban was considered better than having an unstable Afghanistan engaged in all out civil war.
Aziz
By: Barbarian - 24th February 2006 at 18:15
Judging by your comments and links Barbarian I presume that you are of Afghan decendence and that your relatives living in Peshawar are also Afghan – presumably refugees. Pakistan has hosted millions of Afghans as refugees, i have never met an Afghan who has been grateful that Pakistan took so many destitute Afghans!!
Well You are right about this my Bro!
It has many reasons although we not here to talk about Afghanistan-Pakistan relations but let me tell you something maybe it helps you to understand better.
1- Pakistan’s Support Of The Taliban.
2- Durand Line.
Apart from above Facts we have a lot in common and good friends.
And plz don’t wait from us to be gratefull ! Gratefull for what? Pakistan’s help to taliban terrorists to kill our innocent people??! Stealing of Kabul Museum?! etc……
Regarding your point about Pakistan having nuclear bombs so no one will attack, it is all very well having them but it’s pointless not having the means to deliver it. A good analogy would be 1979 when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, you would have been just as unable to defend yourselves even if you had nuclear weapons if you didn’t have the missles able to launch them.
Aziz
Umm here you went out of the topic a lil bit by comparing Russian Invasion of Afghanistan to Pakistan -India dispute!
And we defended ourselves with help of friend countries Like United State and some of the European countires we kicked soviet out of Afghanistan.
And Pakistan Ghauri missle The Hatf5 can carry nuclear warheads.
Not those poor peoples fault! A militery General in power.
And if you have any issue about Afghanistan-pakistan relations better post it on General forum not here .
🙂
your friend
Me
By: redgriffin - 24th February 2006 at 17:43
If you would have said lahore i would have agreed
As a Lahorite I’m offended. BTW Lahore actually has fewer beggars than KHI. Isloos another story. Hell atleast it’s cleaner,greener and has better and more good looking buildings and more Parks than Khi.:)
By: Aziz - 24th February 2006 at 17:24
Judging by your comments and links Barbarian I presume that you are of Afghan decendence and that your relatives living in Peshawar are also Afghan – presumably refugees. Pakistan has hosted millions of Afghans as refugees, i have never met an Afghan who has been grateful that Pakistan took so many destitute Afghans!!
I think for you to criticise the living conditions in Pakistan is absurd considering your family have stayed there and received aid.
It’s all relative of course, i don’t think Afghanistan is a particularly pleasant place – that’s about as polite as i can be about it.
Regarding your point about Pakistan having nuclear bombs so no one will attack, it is all very well having them but it’s pointless not having the means to deliver it. A good analogy would be 1979 when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, you would have been just as unable to defend yourselves even if you had nuclear weapons if you didn’t have the missles able to launch them.
Aziz
By: Barbarian - 24th February 2006 at 16:26
these people are poor because they follow islamic ideology. it does not matter if missile is tested or not. it will have no effect.
Grouth of a country dosent have to do anything with Islamic idealogy! see Malaysia!
First step for Pak is too send all refugess back and permanently close that AFghan border. there is nothing to gain from this.
Ahhaah you have no clue my friend about Pakistan and Afghanistan relations!
You better study a lil bit about Pashtunistan before throwing those nonsenses.
By: star49 - 24th February 2006 at 14:39
Well No need to hide the truth! :rolleyes:
Maybe I need to post some photos of those Poor people beggiing in streets.
But its not the right place !
these people are poor because they follow islamic ideology. it does not matter if missile is tested or not. it will have no effect.
Saudi/kuwait/uae will be much more poor if there hadnt been OIL because of there low level of skills.
Pak was a decent country before 1977.
First step for Pak is too send all refugess back and permanently close that AFghan border. there is nothing to gain from this.
By: Barbarian - 24th February 2006 at 12:10
They also just test the missile to well…’test’ it out to see if production quality is fit faat, you dont want your missiles going nuts during a war.
and Barbarian you stay concerned with your Afghanistan. I dont know what you’re talking about, I was there just a week ago…yeh you’ll see beggers but you are just exaggerating and doing it in great English. Khodebamaan.
Well No need to hide the truth! :rolleyes:
Maybe I need to post some photos of those Poor people beggiing in streets.
But its not the right place !
By: phrozenflame - 24th February 2006 at 11:07
Look at the kuwaiti,super rich.Having all kinds of luxurious housing but cannot even put up a good fight to stop the Iraqi in a day. What the point of able of able to feed all yr citizen when u r not even have the basic means to defend yr freedom…
~ Significant population of Kuwaitis fled to Saudia Arab during the invasion 😐
By: phrozenflame - 24th February 2006 at 11:02
They also just test the missile to well…’test’ it out to see if production quality is fit faat, you dont want your missiles going nuts during a war.
and Barbarian you stay concerned with your Afghanistan. I dont know what you’re talking about, I was there just a week ago…yeh you’ll see beggers but you are just exaggerating and doing it in great English. Khodebamaan.
By: cinciboy - 23rd February 2006 at 14:28
it is the same old missile .what is new about ?
Nuclear capable missiles are usually ‘test fired’ in sub-continent to make political statements. 😉
By: coldfire2005 - 23rd February 2006 at 04:36
it is the same old missile .what is new about ?
By: Barbarian - 21st February 2006 at 07:28
I cant beleive ur acting so naive mate?. What good a bomb gona do if you have no means to deliver it? Its certainly not made to be exploded within the country its ment to be used against the offensive nation. One mean was throught air force which is not reliable any more considering the numerical indifference and sometime the unability not to go more then a certain limit. Thus a need was for another delivery machanism was needed to counter states which can pose a problem from range more then that of our aircraft range of attack.
I hope i made the point clear.
yeh yeh lol! :rolleyes:
Well pakistan has already those Ghauri missle The Hatf5 .
Ghauri IRBM can carry conventional, chemical and nuclear warheads of various payload and yields.
By: A-2-S - 21st February 2006 at 06:58
My point is why you need missles when you have nuclear power? Not any wise country gonna attack you when they know you have nuclear capability.
By the was I was just 1,5 months ago in thos cities My relatives live in Peshawar.
I cant beleive ur acting so naive mate?. What good a bomb gona do if you have no means to deliver it? Its certainly not made to be exploded within the country its ment to be used against the offensive nation. One mean was throught air force which is not reliable any more considering the numerical indifference and sometime the unability not to go more then a certain limit. Thus a need was for another delivery machanism was needed to counter states which can pose a problem from range more then that of our aircraft range of attack.
I hope i made the point clear.
By: Barbarian - 20th February 2006 at 16:25
My point is why you need missles when you have nuclear power? Not any wise country gonna attack you when they know you have nuclear capability.
By the was I was just 1,5 months ago in thos cities My relatives live in Peshawar.
By: A-2-S - 20th February 2006 at 08:03
Look at the kuwaiti,super rich.Having all kinds of luxurious housing but cannot even put up a good fight to stop the Iraqi in a day. What the point of able of able to feed all yr citizen when u r not even have the basic means to defend yr freedom…
Exactly my point Showtime 😉
By: Showtime 100 - 20th February 2006 at 08:02
oh my god!
pakistan is too pooor! you walk on street of Karachi or islam Abad you see thousands of people leing on ground and begging. and the goverment spend millions of bling bling bucks to make new missiles!!
And who is the threat to Pakistan? India? well they both have nuclear capability i dont think they gonna fight anymore in full scale.
Look at the kuwaiti,super rich.Having all kinds of luxurious housing but cannot even put up a good fight to stop the Iraqi in a day. What the point of able of able to feed all yr citizen when u r not even have the basic means to defend yr freedom…
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