April 4, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Using the miracles of modern technology, I am sat in a field looking at a crash site.
I have found the remains of .303 ammo on the surface, and the two bits of structure in the picture, they seem to be stainless steel, I have my ideas but wondering if anyone else recognises them, answers on a postcard, If I find anything else will post as I find it, this must be better than Time Team live 🙂
By: Junk Collector - 5th April 2009 at 09:38
good old 285….Welly….
the screw in the base of the head denotes a deWilde round which is a phosphorous tracer round…do be careful…there is a small ball bearing and picric acid in the tip/point.
Thanks Tony,
I didnt mess with the heads, I left them there, interesting mystery spoke to a local later who claimed a German Bomber crashed in that area funny how stories change,
By: Arabella-Cox - 5th April 2009 at 09:36
I think this may be the clincher, scrubber has been scrubbing, number on it is 28507/1001, looks like the information was wrong, total oddball no idea as to an identity now time to search the records, full marks to Hampden Project
The item in your pic is one of the jointing-plates where the cross members of the geodetic sections meet. There must be a few hundred of those on a Wellington I should think. Of course….that is only an amateur view. A professional would tell you straight away! 😉
By: Rocketeer - 4th April 2009 at 23:23
http://www.1jma.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3232&sid=064487d98308874f472b946196b14bbf
gives some more on the bullet!
By: Rocketeer - 4th April 2009 at 23:19
good old 285….Welly….
the screw in the base of the head denotes a deWilde round which is a phosphorous tracer round…do be careful…there is a small ball bearing and picric acid in the tip/point.
By: Junk Collector - 4th April 2009 at 22:14
I think this may be the clincher, scrubber has been scrubbing, number on it is 28507/1001, looks like the information was wrong, total oddball no idea as to an identity now time to search the records, full marks to Hampden Project
By: Peter - 4th April 2009 at 21:38
Hold on.. wasnt there something about someone finding one of these bullets and it turned out to be armor round or something ? Hope it is a spent round just in case!
By: Whitley_Project - 4th April 2009 at 21:26
Maybe a good scrub will reveal some numbers – as Tony says look out for 285.
By: Junk Collector - 4th April 2009 at 21:26
Well I hope they are qualified, someone needs to be on here !
By: Arabella-Cox - 4th April 2009 at 21:23
Found plenty of rounds like that previously. No doubt there will be a munitions expert along shortly, but presumably some kind of filling.
By: Junk Collector - 4th April 2009 at 21:20
also found, something I have never seen before, a bullet head with a screw in the base, I doubt that will help any but I thought it very odd
By: Peter - 4th April 2009 at 21:16
The parts in the first pic are stiffener rails for the FN5 front turret ammunition cans.. I thought I had a pictuire on file to compare but I don’t..
By: Arabella-Cox - 4th April 2009 at 21:14
Well….what do you expect? Let unqualified aviation archaeologists loose in a field and wonder why they cant identify what they find? Pah!
Call for someone qualified. Quick.:diablo:
If it helps, I found an identical datum plate on a Blenheim wreck off Thorney Island c.1976….on the other hand, having looked at the post above, I may have faulty memory syndrome and perhaps it was one of the Wellington wrecks there?
By: Hampden Project - 4th April 2009 at 21:12
If it was a fighter , it must have had a radial engine made by Bristol as the two parts in the top left of the photo look like cooling gill linkages ( they should have a chunky square thread on them) . The forked bit is 100% Wimpey, it is part of the geodetic structure where it connects to the tubular parts especially near the rear turret or front turret, they can also be found on parts of the wings.
By: Junk Collector - 4th April 2009 at 20:40
Hi
Back Home now
Sorry I cant give too much information for obvious reasons, I was struggling to identify type, nothing that turned up seemed conclusive and just kept turning up similar looking components, those box stiffners I am sure I have seen them before on a Hurricane dig.
This is in the UK and is down as a fighter, did they use Longeron datum markers like that on other aircraft.
I am not convinced bomber there just isnt enough, its confined very generally to a 20 foot square, and hasn’t been touched before
By: Rocketeer - 4th April 2009 at 20:02
Wellington
gets my vote too, the v shaped item in one of the phots goes that way…look for items starting 285….is this in a foreign land JC old fruit?
By: Hampden Project - 4th April 2009 at 18:12
Wellington
By: Lindy's Lad - 4th April 2009 at 18:01
Give us a clue JC… what has your own research about the crash provided? Date? Type?…….
Those rod fork ends look massive…..
By: Whitley_Project - 4th April 2009 at 17:52
Those stiffeners look a bit like those on Whitley cowlings, but wrong material – should be ally. Sorry, not much help.
By: Junk Collector - 4th April 2009 at 17:51
Going home now from site thanks everyone, thanks Mark12 anyone got a picture of one, where were those labels fitted, in the rear ?
By: Peter - 4th April 2009 at 17:30
Item in the top right, is that part of the oil pump or coolant pump?