Party leaders' pre-election debates

We all did…….:eek:

Do you have a sore head his morning, PeeDee? :diablo:

I don’t geddit?

Steady now RH…;)

Certainly something is bruised……………..;)

Do you have a sore head his morning, PeeDee? :diablo:

Young Nick Blair seems to be holding the lead he gained off the telly debate.
Maybe the country will vote for him as a potential fresh start, something different. We tried a woman once, anything can happen.
Brown is a finished man, whatever happens. Good riddance, you seat-stealing wobble-lipped insult to the Labour movement. With zero leadership skills and zero respect, he should have quit many months ago.
“Call me Dave”, well, nuff said. Boris should be the head of that party, at least we’d know where we stood.

As I said about 500 posts ago, I live in an outrageously Tory area, and yet the MP is a total wimp. He won’t get my vote based on the fact he is a chinless plonker. Our Labour candidate has been told by his employer that he must leave if he wins. Ooh err! That’s not legal, they have to hold his job open whilst he serves. His employer is the Local Council…they really should know better. He’s getting a lot of votes based on this. He isn’t a bad bloke anyway.

Good for you BB – that’s exactly my sentiments too. I’m a Scot, but even I love seeing all those St George’s flags waving at the Proms, etc.
But seeing the Union flag flying in Scotland just makes my blood boil…

But the union Flag is the greatest flag on the planet! Well, it was, when we ran it. Now it’s all gone to pot, including the home nations. If I see the blue flag of death ….. no,….that’s microsoft………the Blue flag of Scotland then I sort of feel proud on their behalf. Or the taffs for that matter. The NI don’t tend to fly their flag a lot just yet.

I’m with Bee, English not British. And not european. Actually, 500 years ago I was a Krout, ha ha ha. One side of the family wore suits of Armour and did duels and such, they were the tutonic toffs. The other side were executed for stealing a lot of horses. The toffs came to England and somehow lost Toffdom, hence I’m on here instead of asleep on my yacht.

However, when there is no UK interest in the world cup (Or any sport which happens to be on telly), my support extends geographically from the UK, avoiding France, China and Japan. And possibly Belgium.

I’ve never ever felt myself to be British, I’m English.

Good for you BB – that’s exactly my sentiments too. I’m a Scot, but even I love seeing all those St George’s flags waving at the Proms, etc.
But seeing the Union flag flying in Scotland just makes my blood boil…

I’ve never ever felt myself to be British, I’m English

With you there BB.

Okay, well maybe Yorkshire then English… 😉

Couldn’t be bothered to watch it (nor read three pages of commentry here, sorry), and from seeing snippets of it on the news I’m glad I didn’t waste 90 minutes of my life doing so, but if anyone’s opinions or votes would be changed by the smarmy, lying tosspots standing up in this US style attempt to engage the populace, and vote other than to get the current Liebour shower out of Downing Street, then maybe they don’t deserve a vote…

That’s the interesting distinction, BB, between what we are and what we feel. Since England is not an independent nation I would say I am not English, in that sense, but I was born and grew up in England. And I suppose, genetically, a majority of the population of the United Kingdom is of mixed ancestry, anyway.

Well, I am British, neither English, Welsh, Scottish or Irish.

I’ve never ever felt myself to be British, I’m English.I’d still be an Englishwoman even if I were lucky enough to be able to emigrate to New Zealand and end my days under the Southern Cross.I keep telling Daughter she has to marry a Kiwi.She’s nearly there,her current boyfriend’s half Welsh and half Australian.

I ask this because of an incident at the British High Commission in New Delhi recently when a English gentleman in his 60s maybe, came up to me for some help finding the right cue at the high commission. I guided him to the right counter and later he came and sat next to me and asked what i was going to the UK for, i replied ‘work’ and he suddenly shot “we don’t have any work for you folks anymore…. you all need to understand this, coming in plane loads when there is nothing for you there”. He then got up and left.

I’m sorry that man was rude to you,Kabir.Whatever anyone’s views are on immigration to the U.K.,they might at least be polite about them.
This is a subject which is extremely difficult to address without the idea of racism coming into play. All I can say from personal experience of my own town is that the last few years have seen a huge increase in immigrants,particularly from eastern Europe and Africa.I’m afraid that this is causing a growing resentment in a lot of ordinary people,with the idea mostly being expressed that they are starting to feel like strangers in their own country.
With the constituency I live in having the smallest majority in the country last time ( the Labour candidate got in by a mere 37 votes ),it’ll be an interesting election,and I shouldn’t be surprised to see the BNP candidate doing very well.

I’m also sure that if Scotland was an independent nation again, England would be our closest friend and ally.
ROFL!! brilliant… yes England would be interested in the 4th world country to the north!!! the fence along Hadrian’s wall would be a 100 foot high electric one! LOL

It says ‘British’ on mine too, but I hope I live long enough to see ‘Scottish’ on instead…;)

Another ROFL!! class! Scottish passport… would it be made from Tunnocks wrappers?.
God help my country if idiots like Salmond got any power.
Wake up Al 😀

Well, I am British, neither English, Welsh, Scottish or Irish. The Government of the UK is based in London, which is the capital of the UK. Scotland voted to be devolved from the UK government therefore it was bound to attract a reduced interest from London. That’s what it voted for! I think it’s known as not having your cake and eating it.

Good day gentlemen, don’t mind me barging in but I thought I would pick up some thoughts from you folk.

What is the general consensus here on migrants? I am not talking about illeegal migrants or migrants who come to UK for petty jobs but professional migrants that many British companies are seeking to employ from around the world?

I don’t know what the consensus on this issue is (except the BNP of course who keep saying the UK is full as if they are referring to a bucket or a beaker:rolleyes:) for the parties running in the elections but I have heard its becoming quite an issue slowly in UK.

I ask this because of an incident at the British High Commission in New Delhi recently when a English gentleman in his 60s maybe, came up to me for some help finding the right cue at the high commission. I guided him to the right counter and later he came and sat next to me and asked what i was going to the UK for, i replied ‘work’ and he suddenly shot “we don’t have any work for you folks anymore…. you all need to understand this, coming in plane loads when there is nothing for you there”. He then got up and left. :rolleyes:

I was quite taken aback by this, migration is an ‘issue’ in most developed countries. What stands are the candidates taking before the elections on this issue?

Gosh Al, we do seem to have got your dander up!;) Take it easy…..as I said in a reply to another post I number many Scots amongst friends, after decades of visiting Scotland. None of these friends share your nationalist sentiments. I love my visits there, but I abhor nationalism of any sort and your reaction to my and others comments exemplifies my point. Much as you might wish it Scotland is not a nation or a separate country, but an integral part of the United Kingdom.

Oh I like a good argument, and am quite happy to stand my ground! Don’t get me wrong though – I love England, and all it stands for, but I’m not English, and to me it’s entirely natural that an English-based government couldn’t care less about that bothersome country north of the border. I’m also sure that if Scotland was an independent nation again, England would be our closest friend and ally.

The way I look at it, it says British on my passport….

It says ‘British’ on mine too, but I hope I live long enough to see ‘Scottish’ on instead…;)

I’ll bet you’re proud of your government handing out such goodies free of charge.
Since I have a personal interest in a particular three of these items,perhaps you could point me towards seeing the benefits of a democratic system that allows this :
My daughter has a chronic painful , but not life-threatening, condition. she pays the full prescription charge for her medicines,and she constantly needs various painkillers, Cost for each prescription is I believe £7 odd,but soon falling from £4 to £3 in Scotland ( and even better value for those lucky people in Wales and Northern Ireland, who have arranged to pay precisely nothing at all ).
Same daughter will leave university this summer weighed down with debt for her tuition fees,which she’ll have to repay. Tuition fees for Scottish students ? Big fat zero.
My severely disabled 87 year old mother,and soon my frail elderly father too,pay an arm and a leg in care fees. Had they been living in Scotland,they would have been free from this constant drain on their small savings and incomes.
I’d be mighty proud of the British government if they could very kindly arrange for English citizens to enjoy the same conditions as the Scots,but I won’t be holding my breath.It makes a mockery of the phrase ” United Kingdom “.

That’s precisely my point. A government should be in power to help the people to thrive, and lead a better quality of life, not just there to milk us dry.
Instead of being bitter about Scotland having these perks, ask yourself why you haven’t got them. There’s always plenty of money around for some things. It’s our SNP government who fought hard to win these concessions – we’d just be forgotten about by Westminster without them…

‘All right. But apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system, and public health …What have the Scots ever done for us?’

The way I look at it, it says British on my passport….