June 28, 2006 at 11:31 am
bit of a long shot – are there any old aircraft (flying or preserved) available to see in Peru?
By: skippyscage - 29th June 2006 at 18:55
ha – no worries – I snowboard at 13000′ here in Colorado
By: Mark12 - 29th June 2006 at 16:21
La Paz, Bolivia.
As I recall, the highest international airport in the world at around 3,900m, just under 13,000′. They come in pretty fast.
You are advised to walk very slowly from the aircraft to the terminal…and keep drinking the coca tea to minimise the altitude sickness. 🙂
Mark
By: skippyscage - 29th June 2006 at 15:37
ha ha – thanks – I don’t have enough time for Bolivia (although I’d love to)
giant frogs eh?
By: APC104 - 29th June 2006 at 15:07
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also travelling down to the Lake Titikaka area[/QUOTE]
If you have the time, you could ‘pop’ over the border to La Paz, only a 2 hour or so taxi ride from the crossing.
At La Paz airport they have a ‘collection’ of T33s, that make up the airforce there! I navigated around the men with guns at the gate and got showed around ALL 😮 he hangers there – the T33s, the Hercs, and the trainers. There is also a sorry collection of civils. next to the main runway, but I don’t think you can get access to those.
If you have lots of free time, worth a trip.. if not, stick to the Lake … but watch out for the giant frogs!
By: Jan - 29th June 2006 at 09:36
Peru received two variants of the Douglas Bomber, ten 8A-3Ps and 13 former USAAF A-33s (aka 8A-5s).
Joe Baugher has this to say on the 8A-3P:
http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/baugher_us/a17-06.html and this on the A-33: http://home.att.net/~jbaugher4/a17_9.html
It would appear that the object beneath the rear fuselage is in fact a partially retractable bomb-aiming tub! This would most likely make her an 8A-3P, which of course has no Scandinavian connection.
Regards,
Jan
By: Chapin01 - 29th June 2006 at 08:34
This other map, shows the ferry-route from El Segundo, CA to Peru (notice that the airplanes are identified as 8A-3P):
Saludos,
Tulio
LAAHS.com
By: Jan - 29th June 2006 at 08:20
Mark12, no, I am not building a model. I have neither ability, patience nor time, I’m afraid 😮
But, this particular DB-8A has a Scandinavian connection, being one of 36 DB-8A-5s ordered by Norway. However, they were never delivered, and instead taken on charge by the USAAF after Pearl Harbor designated as the A-33. Some of the A-33s were supplied to Peru in 1943, with this particular example remaining in service until 1958. The map insignia shows the route flown during a South American tour. One thing intrigues me, though, what is the box like object under the rear fuselage?
Regards,
Jan
By: skippyscage - 29th June 2006 at 03:56
thanks – I’m actually staying with friends who live in Lima so the language and taxis won’t be an issue
also travelling down to the Lake Titikaka area
By: APC104 - 28th June 2006 at 18:43
Skippyscage,
I asked the same question last year and Mark 12 kindly posted the address and phone number, plus many more photos. I followed this up with a comment about getting there and how best to do it – but i don’t have time to search for it now – sorry.
Most taxi drivers will try and take you to the big Airforce HQ off the massive round-about in the centre of Lima – this is not the place to go… unless you have to make the appointment in person. If you can’t speak Spanish, get your hotel to try and do this for you.
Also, be careful which taxi you take in Lima – get your hotel/ hostel to book you one – safer.
With regards other aircraft.. you can try the airbase outside Ariquipa, there is a Mig on a pole, I have a photo somewhere – took it standing on the roof of a bus to see over the wall! there is also supposed to be a Canberra or 2 hiding in public parks and the like. Again, I think the info is on the June 2005 thread.
Buena Suerte! 🙂
By: Mark12 - 28th June 2006 at 16:26
Mk 12, lovely photos! Do you have a view of the starboard side as well of the DB-8A-3P?
Jan
Jan,
Building a model?
Mark


By: Steve T - 28th June 2006 at 14:52
Wow, colour me gobsmacked…I knew about the NA-50 (immediate predecessor to the NA-68/P-64), but then I scroll down and there’s a Northrop Nomad, or at least its twin sister, on a stick too. Makes my day…
I’m told there’s a Canberra on display in Peru also.
S.
By: TEXANTOMCAT - 28th June 2006 at 14:23
Drat!
Thanks guys
TT
By: Jan - 28th June 2006 at 14:21
Mk 12, lovely photos! Do you have a view of the starboard side as well of the DB-8A-3P? Incidentally, the Swedish Air Force Museum negotiated long and hard for the DB-8A-3P, but the Peruvians sensibly refused to let go of her.
TT, more on the N.A.-50 in Peruvian service can be found here: http://www.laahs.com/artman/publish/article_125.shtml And, it’s definitely not a P-64, that was the Siamese variant…
Regards,
Jan
By: Mark12 - 28th June 2006 at 14:01
MK12 –
Genuine -P-64
And er…
Chesapeake?
TT
TT
From Memory, 😉 , a North American NA-50 and a Douglas DB-8A-3P.
Mark
By: TEXANTOMCAT - 28th June 2006 at 13:51
MK12 –
Genuine -P-64
And er…
Chesapeake?
TT
By: skippyscage - 28th June 2006 at 12:14
thanks for the pointers
By: Jan - 28th June 2006 at 12:12
Skippyscage,
Here’s a link to the Museo Aeronáutco del Peru. You may find more information if you post on the Latin American Aviation Historical Society´s forum, www.laahs.com
http://www.incaland.com/museofap/BIENVENIDA-Ingles.htm
Regards,
Jan
By: Mark12 - 28th June 2006 at 11:55
bit of a long shot – are there any old aircraft (flying or preserved) available to see in Peru?
There most certainly is.
‘Museo de la Fuerza Aerea Del Peru’ in Lima.
By appointment only. Ring beforehand.
Here are a couple of shots I took in 2001.
I think there is a thread somewhere on this.
Mark

