November 13, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Has anybody ever seen a photo of the Lord Forbes DC-1 in British markings (also in thread…Less Common Transport Aircraft)After shipment to Dagenham Docks in 1938 it was flown from a field to Croydon, but it seems to have spent most of its time in France, Germany and Italy after being registered in Britain, so those countries may be the best bet for a photo. The SDASM/flickr hotlinked photo shows it as NC223Y still fitted with airflow smoothing blades between the engines and fuselage (although another account describes them as experimental instrument cabling ducts?)….the upper linked photo shows Forbes (The Earl of Granard) receiving it (on the Thames in London)
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/lord-forbes-and-his-new-douglas-airliner-on-arrival-from-news-photo/3352218

Douglas DC-1 by San Diego Air & Space Museum Archives, on Flickr
By: longshot - 2nd April 2013 at 12:45
Now courtesy of flickr hotlinking facility we have a good photo of the DC-1 as EC-AGN before its final crash ( its on flickr at 4000 pixels :), and I suspect ‘Iberia Airlines’ in this case is an unofficial person with an excellent photo collection!)

DC- 1 by Iberia Airlines, on Flickr
By: longshot - 31st October 2009 at 00:01
DC-1 marked as G-AFIF
Still no photo found as G-AFIF but this beautiful shot of NC223Y taken at Newark airport has turned up on flickr courtesy Auburn University

Record setting flight – Los Angeles, California to Newark, New Jersey by The Auburn University Digital Library, on Flickr
By: wieesso - 10th March 2009 at 13:26
…slightly off topic
DC-1 cockpit
http://www.vrtule.info/images/stories/recenze/uiverdc2/03_dc1.jpg
By: longshot - 9th March 2009 at 19:07
G-AFIF photo
Thanks, AJJ, Wieesso,Thunderbird167….the topic of photos of the DC-1 marked as G-AFIF has been in Flight’s letter pages in 1960 p0806……1969 p1121,,,,and 1971 p0095 all without result. I think it would not have been painted as G-AFIF till the CofA was issued Aug20 1938 after which it was mainly abroad ….see my post #3 in this thread for Captain Walters log of DC-1 flights ….photos from these places might be the best hope of finding it. I looked in the www.life.com archive of photos of the Munich conference 1938…the similar looking Bloch 220 of Daladier is there and a colour shot of Chamberlains Lockheed 14 ,but unfortunately the view is marred by certain people wearing jodhpurs…..no G-AFIF, though
By: Thunderbird167 - 9th March 2009 at 17:40
21st January 1971 is the date on the article in flight
By: longshot - 9th March 2009 at 14:34
Whats the date and page of Flight, Wieesso?….the link isnt working
By: wieesso - 9th March 2009 at 12:22
Even 38 years ago they looked for photographs of AFIF :confused:
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1971/1971%20-%200095.html
Martin
By: AJJ - 9th March 2009 at 09:18
Now that my attention has been drawn to this thread, you might like to know that I have searched the AJJ Collection for pictures of the DC1. We have two prints, but both are in US marks. Nothing of G-AFIF. Neither did I find a picture of G-AFIF in any of our literature.
David Jackson
The A J Jackson Collection at Brooklands Museum
http://www.ajjcollection.co.uk
By: longshot - 13th November 2008 at 23:11
DC-1 G-AFIF
Thanks Newforest….although the ajj collection has a listing for G-AFIF I think the photo is of the DC-1 marked X 223Y as in vol II of the British Civil Aircraft Putnam book.In Spring 2007 the Croydon Airport Society published extracts from Capt. Walter Rogers logbook relating to the DC-1…he flew it from Dagenham to Croydon on 3July (1938)…on 5July it flew Croydon-Bristol-Croydon….11JulCroydon-Paris…12July Paris-Croydon….12Jul Croydon-Heathrow-Croydon….27July air tests for Certificate of Airworthiness(issued 29July)….20August Paris-Deauville….21Aug Deauville-Cannes….25Aug Cannes-Marseilles-Venice….31Aug Venice-Milan….01September Milan-Venice….04Sep Venice-Marseilles….15Sep Paris-Munich-Salzburg….16Sep Salzburg-Munich-Paris….flying at Paris 17,18,29Sep….01October Paris Amsterdam….02Oct Amsterdam-Paris. Other sources suggest it may have visited Baldonnel, Dublin.’Heathrow’ then was of course the pre-war Fairey Company’s Great West Aerodrome. I believe the Munich flights carried journalists to the 1938 International Peace Conference.
Flight 10 june 1960 had a letter from Dennis M Powell about the DC-1 with 2 photos of the re-assembly at Dagenham but not marked G-AFIF
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1960/1960%20-%200806.html
By: Newforest - 13th November 2008 at 14:05
Some words, no photo.:(
And what of the DC- 1? The aircraft languished for a bit at Burbank before being sold to Viscount Forbes, the Earl of Grandard, and assigned the British civil registration G-AFIF. The original plan was to fly the DC-1 to Britain but in the end it had its wings removed and was shipped via a freighter. At Croydon Aerodrome, the aircraft was reassembled and the majority of its long-range modifications were removed and a passenger interior was installed. The Viscount only kept the plane a few months before it was sold in Spain where it began operating with Lineas Aereas Postales Esp as EC-AGJ in support of the Spanish Republican Government during that country’s devastating civil war. After the end of the civil war, the aircraft went to Sociedad Anonima de Transportes Aereos as EC-AAE. Operated on regular passenger flights, the aircraft had an engine failure shortly after liftoff from Malaga during December 1940 and was crash-landed in an open field. The aircraft received considerable damage but no one was injured. Given the craft’s unique heritage and lack of replacement parts, no attempt was made to repair the transport. It is rumored that part of the wreckage was later dragged away and converted into a local religious shrine. The DC-1 had truly paved the way for modem aviation.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3901/is_200212/ai_n9161579/pg_6
Here is a photo of it as X223Y.
http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/34150
It would appear that the A.J.Jackson Collection have a photo of it as G-AFIF.