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I agree Bhoy….the Trents will really power the a/c. I have travelled in both the B777 and the A340….the kind of power the 777 produces is no match for the A340 and not forgetting they are of the same capacity.

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hardly surprising that the 342/343 are underpowered… they use the CFM 56.

I have a feeling those Trent 500’s will create a bit more thrust.

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Lufthansa, Cathay, AirFrance, Singapore all operate both the A340 and 744. I think capacity also has a lot to do with it, as well. Why deploy a 744 on a route when an A340 can be deployed, to match, perhaps smaller demand. I would think an A340 burns slightly less fuel, as well, to go with less capacity and cargo weight. The ironic thing is, the A340 actually has more hold space than the 744. The A340 holds 11 pallets, whereas the 744 only holds 9.

GD1

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What is interesting is some airlines use both types – eg. Emirates operate A330 and 777 machines. Same for Kuwait Airways.

They probably mix and match them according to route, do you think?

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I agree. The A340 definitely lacks when it comes to engine thrust, and my cousin who used to be a ramp worker at the LAX Bradley terminal, comfirmed that the A340 cargo loads had to be much more conservative in order to preserve range. For example, I’ll use Phillipine airlines, who sends both the 744 and A340-300 to LAX. When the A340’s had a big load, they had to stop in Honolulu en route to Manilla. The 744’s didn’t have to do that, even with a big load. Those planes were generally full, pax-wise. I think that Airbus definitely did a good job in increasing the thrust dramatically, in the -500’s and -600’s, however. Maybe these 2 will not have to compensate in order to fullfill their range like the -200’s and -300’s do.

GD1

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Dazza – these ranges are manufacturers figures and are therefore to be taken with a rather large pinch of salt. What really matters is how far you can go with a suitably capacious payload. This is where Airbus usually start to struggle. Boeing typically over engineer and over power their products while Airbus design to the minimalist principal. As a result (and admittedly this is a bit of a sweeping generalisation) both manufacturers design aircraft capable of going a long way, however if you want to add cargo capability (in addition to carrying the passengers bags) you will probably go Boeing. E.g. A330 and B777 are similar machines but the Airbus tends to be a charter aeroplane (not much cargo requirement on a charter) while the schedules generally use the Boeing.

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Time for another caption comp?

The Spitfire pilot: “Lets just see you try and pass me, got you there, try and go slower and stay level you big bugger.”

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A340-200 max range: 8,000 Nm
A340-300 range over: 7,300 Nm
A340-500 range over: 8,650 Nm
A340-600 range over: 7,500 Nm

747-400 max range: 7,260 Nm
747-400ER max range: 7,670 Nm

Hope this info answers your question Ja, all the info is Airbus and Boeings own figures.

Regards, Dazza.:-)

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Out of curiosity, what is the range of the A-340 series?
Do they compare to the B-747’s?

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yes Saab…taken at Eastmidlands (Notingham).

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Nice picture.Was that taken at a British air show in the UK?I can remember hearing something about it.

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You see size matters! 😉

great shot.

regards,

jw