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Pictures from the National Air and Space/Udvar-Hazy Center

Over the weekend I made my first trip to the recently opened Udvar-Hazy Center and took a ton of pictures. They have quite a collection but I thought that you’d all be interested in the Historic/Classic aircraft on display.

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By: TEXANTOMCAT - 17th June 2004 at 09:16

Lol Jdk!

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By: Whiskey Delta - 17th June 2004 at 02:49

Whiskey Delta

I think the the Japanese Aircraft behind the Okha could be a Nakajima J1N nightfighter codenamed ‘Gekko’ or ‘Irving’- Tamiya do a nice kit of it, modelling fans!

Luckily their example of the J1N has been restored as mexchiwa00 stated.

http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/aero/aircraft/images/nakajima_j1n1_irving.jpg

The fuselage in the picture is a NICK. Now I really wish I had taken a picture of it. 🙂

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By: turbo_NZ - 17th June 2004 at 01:21

Superb collection of photos, thanks on behalf of us Kiwis !!!

Question, those pods under the AR 234’s wings, are they the RATO packs that were employed for take-off ?

I agree with everyone else, the P-38 looks great “weathered” !!

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By: Corsair166b - 17th June 2004 at 01:04

I still think they ought to drop the flaps on the Corsair like it’s making an approach to the Carrier for landing…she’d look better…

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By: mexchiwa00 - 17th June 2004 at 00:26

Love the P-38, think the place could gain a lot of charm if every plane was in that kind of shape (but we aren’t that lucky). That’s definitely the Ki-45 in the background, the J1N1 is restored by is still at Silver Hill (I think, not sure about that). The B-29 might be on the lifts because they were used with either the X-1 series or D-558 series, but then I’m not sure about that either. I’m not sure if this was helpful or not…

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By: JDK - 16th June 2004 at 18:59

Hey, TT,
We all have a contribution to make. Mine is NOT spelling, as any fule kno.
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By: TEXANTOMCAT - 16th June 2004 at 17:37

Whiskey Delta

I think the the Japanese Aircraft behind the Okha could be a Nakajima J1N nightfighter codenamed ‘Gekko’ or ‘Irving’- Tamiya do a nice kit of it, modelling fans!

coo! I knew something for once!!! I’m usually right out of me depth on these forums!!!

http://www.wwiitech.net/main/japan/aircraft/j1n/

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By: atc pal - 15th June 2004 at 19:49

There was another set of pictures in March and a good discussion. Apparently the P-38 is one that ace **** Bong flew a couple of times. Please don’t “shine” it up!

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=22783&highlight=Udvar+Hazy

Thank you for sharing

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By: Cajun21 - 15th June 2004 at 18:42

Elevated Enola

Steve,

The Enola Gay was put on the scissors lift so that patrons walking along the elevated walkway could look into the cockpit. 🙂 Also disgruntled students can throw red paint on her. 😮 HTH

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By: Eddie - 15th June 2004 at 17:09

I think to be strictly accurate one has the alternatives of:
Schraege Musik, or
Schräge Musik.

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By: JDK - 15th June 2004 at 16:56

Gah…

‘Slanted music’ is the German term for jazz – and was chosen for the gun set up as it is the angle of the gunfire.

watch out for the Atlantic MOTF. Not far in American driving miles, but a bit damp.

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By: Manonthefence - 15th June 2004 at 16:48

Actually I think Jazz sums it up nicely. I have a cousin in Baltimore who may be getting a visit from me soon, its not too far away from her in American diving miles really 😀

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By: JDK - 15th June 2004 at 16:42

Thanks dh.

Though ‘Jazz’ misses the point. In German it literally reads “slanted music” IIRC and thus relates to the type of attack.

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By: Whiskey Delta - 15th June 2004 at 16:42

Thanks for the info JDK.

As for getting there, if you should find yourself at the Washington-Dulles airport for a few hours they run a free shuttle to and from the museum which is located just south of the airport.

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By: dhfan - 15th June 2004 at 16:36

Close but not close enough. 🙂
Schrage Musik. (Jazz)

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By: JDK - 15th June 2004 at 16:31

Right behind the cockpt were 2 rather large cannons rigidly mounted at a 45 degree angle upward. What mission would use such a setup? Flying under US bombers?

Yup. Just like the Luftwaffe nightfighter setup for tackling RAF bombers. “Schrange Musik” is NOT how you spell it, a fine Molesworth attempt. – anyone got the correct version?

Thanks for sharing the pics. I would hope that we wouldn’t need the usual display boards to make our ‘museum magic’ As Steve says, some stunning stuff there. Many thanks for sharing.

Hmmm. How to get there.

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By: jbs - 15th June 2004 at 16:25

I believe it was a Kawasaki Ki-45 Kai Hei. As with most aircraft on display there was very little information regarding the actual airframe on display. Right behind the cockpt were 2 rather large cannons rigidly mounted at a 45 degree angle upward. What mission would use such a setup? Flying under US bombers?

WD,

Thanks for the info 🙂

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By: Whiskey Delta - 15th June 2004 at 16:18

I don’t want to take anything away from it, it is an astonishing achievement, but it just did not give me much of a buzz when I was there. Perhaps it is just all too new at present. Sorry Smithsonian!

It definately is lacking compared to other established museums but as you said, it’s most likely due to the museum being so new. You’re right about it getting crowded, here’s the full list of aircraft scheduled to be on display there.

http://www.nasm.si.edu/museum/udvarhazy/artifacts_air.cfm

They still have to squeeze quite a few more aircraft in there. That Super Connie is going to take up a good piece of floor space. I’m looking forward to see the FW Ta-152.

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By: Whiskey Delta - 15th June 2004 at 16:13

I believe it was a Kawasaki Ki-45 Kai Hei. As with most aircraft on display there was very little information regarding the actual airframe on display. Right behind the cockpt were 2 rather large cannons rigidly mounted at a 45 degree angle upward. What mission would use such a setup? Flying under US bombers?

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By: jbs - 15th June 2004 at 15:53

Can anyone identify the wingless Japanese bomber behind the Okha ?

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