August 26, 2007 at 3:58 pm
Here is the Mosquito I recently acquired. I was privileged to be offered this Beautiful aircraft and hope we can make her as accessible as possible for all to enjoy for more pictures here is a link, http://www.spitfirespares.com/
Click on the Mosquito icon on the home page. Enjoy 🙂
By: Robert Whitton - 1st September 2007 at 10:45
You will have at least 1 extra visitor from Scotland if it appears at NEAM!!;)
By: Lindy's Lad - 31st August 2007 at 22:03
PM’d
I’ll send an e-mail later – kids to send to bed first……..:D
By: Graham Adlam - 31st August 2007 at 19:30
Don’t see why not. If you are seriously considering it, send me a PM with the approximate cost, and I’ll have a word with the manager to see what he wants to do….
PM’d
By: Lindy's Lad - 31st August 2007 at 19:26
Don’t see why not. If you are seriously considering it, send me a PM with the approximate cost, and I’ll have a word with the manager to see what he wants to do….
By: Graham Adlam - 31st August 2007 at 19:23
Just a little north of you… Sunderland (North East Aircraft Museum)….:D
Will you pay for the fuel to tow it up?
By: Lindy's Lad - 31st August 2007 at 19:22
Just a little north of you… Sunderland (North East Aircraft Museum)….:D
By: Graham Adlam - 31st August 2007 at 19:20
Its better than our mosquito, and will quite happily give it a home, dodgy canopy or not! (Loan or free though…..)
“What mosquito?” I hear you cry!
We have an exhaust section…………….
If you don’t ask you don’t get, You know I might let you have it on loan until the summer, it might help us both I need the space to fit the spitty wings and paint where are you located?
By: Lindy's Lad - 31st August 2007 at 19:10
Its better than our mosquito, and will quite happily give it a home, dodgy canopy or not! (Loan or free though…..)
“What mosquito?” I hear you cry!
We have an exhaust section…………….
By: Graham Adlam - 31st August 2007 at 17:04
As the construction of the Mosquito’s canopy is mostly of tubular construction, piping of suitable diameter can be welded with the front frame built op to the Mosquito profile using wooden construction.
This should not be seen as a Mosquito fuselage, as this would not do justice to the whole project but should be seen as a worthwhile project in itself. To build something that would represent the thousands of Mosquitoes that were crewed by young men from all corners of the world.
And if somebody thinks that somewhere in the text above is any slagging off hidden, think again.
Cheers
Cees
Perhaps I should call it a Spitquito LOL All replica’s are representations of the real thing, you have to call them something and I am calling this a Mosquito replica. The English dictionary explains the word replica as (copy; representation; reproduction; duplicate)
So I think I can call it that without upsetting anyone?
By: Graham Adlam - 31st August 2007 at 16:45
We have a Mossie canopy on display which you are more than welcome to photograph or measure Graham…
TT
Thanks for the offer I would very much like to visit when time allows, I don’t suppose you could be persuaded into swapping it? I have some pretty rare stuff i could trade.:) Is there anything you really need?
By: Graham Adlam - 31st August 2007 at 16:41
This Mossie fuselage is an excellent project with a few flaws; “the man who never made a mistake, never made anything” no the canopy isn’t right , and no the first time I saw it, I didn’t notice either!
Not that my advice is actually needed (but when did that stop me) a large improvement could be made by (a) bringing the side glazing bars down a touch, and (b) raising the fuselage sides (in the same location) up slightly, neither jobs would be time consuming.
When building replicas, these problems are out there for all of us (as my scrap bin will bear testiment to) even manufacturers drawings don’t tell the whole story, and there is nothing like having a part to copy, but not that many Mossie canopies out there.
Stuart
Hopefully will be able to visit soon really want to look at the internals of the cockpit as well, do you have a complete bomb aimers position fitted? I think the MK VII fitted should be replaced by a MK XIV Bombsight and that means a bomb aimers panel similar to the lanc set up I would guess. The canopy will be a real mission for us, the idea of replacing/cutting the glass and altering the frame would be a real mission. With so much else to do its a low priority.
By: TEXANTOMCAT - 31st August 2007 at 16:08
We have a Mossie canopy on display which you are more than welcome to photograph or measure Graham…
TT
By: Cees Broere - 31st August 2007 at 15:18
As the construction of the Mosquito’s canopy is mostly of tubular construction, piping of suitable diameter can be welded with the front frame built op to the Mosquito profile using wooden construction.
This should not be seen as a Mosquito fuselage, as this would not do justice to the whole project but should be seen as a worthwhile project in itself. To build something that would represent the thousands of Mosquitoes that were crewed by young men from all corners of the world.
And if somebody thinks that somewhere in the text above is any slagging off hidden, think again.
Cheers
Cees
By: stuart gowans - 31st August 2007 at 14:48
This Mossie fuselage is an excellent project with a few flaws; “the man who never made a mistake, never made anything” no the canopy isn’t right , and no the first time I saw it, I didn’t notice either!
Not that my advice is actually needed (but when did that stop me) a large improvement could be made by (a) bringing the side glazing bars down a touch, and (b) raising the fuselage sides (in the same location) up slightly, neither jobs would be time consuming.
When building replicas, these problems are out there for all of us (as my scrap bin will bear testiment to) even manufacturers drawings don’t tell the whole story, and there is nothing like having a part to copy, but not that many Mossie canopies out there.
By: mark_pilkington - 30th August 2007 at 15:52
Cees,
It’s a tricky one, but it’s spelt Lincoln Nitschke, and you can see his museum here…..
He sent me some photo’s of his amazing cockpit reproduction scaled from r/c model plans, then he did indeed stumble across the metalwork from the real thing, so promptly built himself a fuselage for that.
I’m sure our friends downunder (Battle, Stormbird etc….) will elaborate further.
Cheers….
.
Lincoln has two Mosquito replica’s in his museum, the first is a cockpit section with an original “Bomber” type split windscreen (most likely from a former RAAF PR XVI) canopy on it, while he has a replica full length fuselage incorporating an original wing “centre-section” and “fighter” type flat windsceen which I believe came from 618 Sqn FBVI remains at Narromine.
He had planned to fut the “FBVI” up on its undercarriage but space in his museum has seen it remain prone on the ground.
Lincoln has “re-created” a number of aircraft displays from very poor remains including an Oxford cockpit, Anson cockpit and Anson Fuselage, battle cockpit along with the two Mossies, an excellent way to use interesting and historic components to bring alive the type for his visitors to enjoy.
regards
Mark Pilkingon
By: Graham Adlam - 30th August 2007 at 14:54
🙂
Quite right.
Like Cees, I spend a lot of my time, at work and play on getting the details right. I am by no means an armchair expert.
Constructive criticism (for that is what this is) has a place in ensuring we strive to always improve. Graham has happily taken this on board.
Looking at it, I think it incorporates a number of Dove panels (the windows), which has probably served to dictate some of the shape. I think that with a bit of imagination, it can be rebuilt to more accurately represent the Mosquito shape.
Graham, I have enough of an original canopy frame that you could use to copy, but we need to have a measure up to ensure it will fit your opening. I also have an original top escape hatch spare. We can work something out.
Bruce
Bruce your advise and help with the parts is much appreciated. Here is a better pic of the canopy side on. Its 1.705m long by .480m high (in centre) and 1.0m wide at its widest point. Looks allot better at this angle.
I don’t think its as bad as the Spit canopy Mark posted I didnt think it was possible to make a Spitfire look ugly, or maybe I am just used to looking at Spitfires. LOL
Have uploaded some more pictures taken this morning including the tail unit.
http://www.spitfirespares.com/
By: Bruce - 30th August 2007 at 08:42
Quite right.
Like Cees, I spend a lot of my time, at work and play on getting the details right. I am by no means an armchair expert.
Constructive criticism (for that is what this is) has a place in ensuring we strive to always improve. Graham has happily taken this on board.
Looking at it, I think it incorporates a number of Dove panels (the windows), which has probably served to dictate some of the shape. I think that with a bit of imagination, it can be rebuilt to more accurately represent the Mosquito shape.
Graham, I have enough of an original canopy frame that you could use to copy, but we need to have a measure up to ensure it will fit your opening. I also have an original top escape hatch spare. We can work something out.
Bruce
By: Mark12 - 30th August 2007 at 08:40
well does look a little different but would think this was like it is due to cost of molding the perspex, i guess that he may have found a window similar as not everyone has deep pockets. looks good enough to me graham wish he was in my shed!!.
If all the rivit counters put as much time helping out than slagging off other peoples projects, you may get it near perfect. we are not trying to re-invent the wheel again here
Surely the puzzle is why somebody, who clearly has put so much time and effort into this project, should not make the fundamental step of replicating the canopy using scaled up drawings and or profile boards. The information is out there…Salisbury Hall etc.
The canopy/windscreen is the focal point of any project like this. It takes so little extra effort to get it right.
The Ambala Spitfire is another example, shown here on this image by Jagan Pillarisetti.
You can be inches out on the airframe dimensions but not on the windscreen/canopy…if you want to impress the aficionados.
Mark

By: Cees Broere - 30th August 2007 at 08:14
well does look a little different but would think this was like it is due to cost of molding the perspex, i guess that he may have found a window similar as not everyone has deep pockets. looks good enough to me graham wish he was in my shed!!.
If all the rivit counters put as much time helping out than slagging off other peoples projects, you may get it near perfect. we are not trying to re-invent the wheel again here
Graham and Ace,
Hmmm, I could have expected this, is my English that bad? :dev2: 🙂
I’m not slagging off other peoples projects (read my post carefully).
I know exactly what a Mosquito canopy looks like, as opposed to you I think.
About being a rivet counter. Yes, indeed I am. Recently I counted 15 rivets on either side of upper skin of the throttle controls duct on my Halifax pilots chassis. You yeed to count otherwise it’s not according to drawings:p
Do not turn this into a flaming war. We all have opinions don’t we?
Peace peace:)
Cees
By: fighterace - 29th August 2007 at 23:57
well does look a little different but would think this was like it is due to cost of molding the perspex, i guess that he may have found a window similar as not everyone has deep pockets. looks good enough to me graham wish he was in my shed!!.
If all the rivit counters put as much time helping out than slagging off other peoples projects, you may get it near perfect. we are not trying to re-invent the wheel again here