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Pilot POW Falklands

Hi guys,

I don’t really do too much starting of threads here but I would like to know more about the RAF Harrier pilot who was shot down and captured over Port Stanley. Is there any website out there that give any details?

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By: Creaking Door - 14th December 2007 at 10:21

I understand it he was brought back as they wanted to hand him over to Sweden and he had to be sent back because of him being a combatant and the Geneva Convention said so.

Quite correct.

Captain Alfredo Astiz was brought to the UK at the request of France and Sweden in connection with:

“the disappearance of Dagmar Ingrid Hagelin, a 17-yr old Argentine-born girl holding Swedish citizenship, and two French nuns, Alice Domon and Léonie Duquet, the three of them in 1977” (Wikipedia)

Due to his status as a POW the UK was unable to extradite him to France or Sweden, although he was questioned by British police but remained silent. France convicted him in his absence in 1990. He was repatriated to Argentina before the end of the Falklands War.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfredo_Astiz

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By: Mark James - 14th December 2007 at 10:11

Tell us more, however, wasn’t that Captain Asiz or something similar who was brought back here for Human Rights trials at the Hague, but no case was found to be proved so an embarrased British government had to send him home where he no doubt lives in wealthy retirement on the family cattle farm.
Hadn’t he allegedly got something to do with the ‘Missing Ones’.

I’m not too sure exactly what happened but as I understand it he was brought back as they wanted to hand him over to Sweden and he had to be sent back because of him being a combatant and the Geneva Convention said so. I think. Perhaps someone here can add to that please.

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By: Pete Truman - 14th December 2007 at 10:01

Painful death? Didn’t they talk to some of the other marines who had already been in the custody of the Argentinians? Hmmmmm.

Mind you, didn’t they capture that torturer in South Georgia and tried to send him to Sweden or something like that?

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Tell us more, however, wasn’t that Captain Asiz or something similar who was brought back here for Human Rights trials at the Hague, but no case was found to be proved so an embarrased British government had to send him home where he no doubt lives in wealthy retirement on the family cattle farm.
Hadn’t he allegedly got something to do with the ‘Missing Ones’.

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By: Mark James - 14th December 2007 at 09:30

A bit different to the recent programme about the training of the marines prior to being sent off to Afghanistan when a member of the SAS bluntly told them that if they were captured, there was no way out but a painful death, nice one.

Painful death? Didn’t they talk to some of the other marines who had already been in the custody of the Argentinians? Hmmmmm.

Mind you, didn’t they capture that torturer in South Georgia and tried to send him to Sweden or something like that?

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By: patrouille - 13th December 2007 at 23:01

Jeff Glover went on to serve 3 Years in the Red Arrows. There is also a small piece in the ex Reds Managers Tony Cunnane Biograthy about Jeff.

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By: Creaking Door - 13th December 2007 at 20:58

I suppose this depends on how you define the start and finish of the ‘war’ (or even if it was strictly a war as no declaration was made by either side).

In one of the supreme (and superb) ironies of the conflict the Royal Marines garrison captured on the Falklands were returned to Britain and promptly joined the Task Force that was despatched to liberate the islands. Unfortunately these Royal Marines were just beaten to Stanley by their traditional rivals, the Parachute Regiment.

I’m certain that Jeff Glover was the only British serviceman held in Argentina when the war ended (and this is probably the seed for the misreporting).

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By: Pete Truman - 13th December 2007 at 15:09

I was interested to read details of his captivity, but he wasn’t the only POW, as suggested in The New Tork Times, there were the marines and members of the crew of Endurance captured in Stanley as well as the marines captured on South Georgia, who despite them having killed quite a few Argentinian troops, were supposedly treated humanely and with respect, a bit like the paras captured at Arnhem, or is this a myth someone knows otherwise about on both counts.
A bit different to the recent programme about the training of the marines prior to being sent off to Afghanistan when a member of the SAS bluntly told them that if they were captured, there was no way out but a painful death, nice one.

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By: megalith - 13th December 2007 at 10:09

From memory. I think there was an account in the pilots own words of his captivity in the Ian Allen book Harrier at War.

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By: David Eyre - 13th December 2007 at 01:40

Hi Mark,

On the morning of 21 May 1982, Flt Lt Jeffrey Glover was flying a Harrier GR.3 of 1(F) Squadron, RAF, (XZ972 -tail code 33) operating from HMS Hermes on a reconnaissance mission.

He was shot down at around 9.35am by a Shorts Blowpipe man-portable surface to air missile over Port Howard, West Falklands and ejected. He broke his arm and collar bone during the ejection, and was caught by Argentine troops. They

There are some squadron combat diaries here:
http://www.raf.mod.uk/falklands/1sqn_4.html#abbrev

Combat report here:
http://www.raf.mod.uk/falklands/cr2105.html

Detailed account here by Glover himself:
http://www.britishmedalforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19673&sid=a7c6e01a1540b55d856bb3f9242ae0ca

Article from New York Times about him returning to UK:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9905E2D61639F932A25754C0A964948260&n=Top/News/World/Countries%20and%20Territories/Falkland%20Islands

Article about Jeff Glover selling his medals, and some details about his movements and later career:
http://rogue-gunner.blogspot.com/2007/09/falklands-war-pilot-sells-his-medals.html
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4161/is_20070923/ai_n20520589
http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/thornton/Nigel-Thornton-What-price-the.3198906.jp

Details of the Harrier here:
http://harrier.hyperlinx.cz/FAQ-falklandwar.htm

There’s probably more info available on Google.

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By: Creaking Door - 13th December 2007 at 01:12

Only one Harrier pilot was captured during the war and his name was…er… 😮

Flight Lieutenant Jeff Glover of number 1 Squadron RAF shot down near Port Howard on 21st May 1982.

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