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Pilot selection update No. 2!

Well……despite possibly the most dismal performance that OAT has ever seen in Maths, I’m through to the next stage!!!

I found out this morning after a call from Mike Taylor, the head of the Airline Preparation Course. It was all very embarrassing, he said I was well above average on everything except for Maths and Physics. Basically he said that I should study those a bit more, but other than that I’m fine and they want me to come to the interview and team building stage on the 17th.

For me this means I’ve now got the hardest part out of the way, I was really dreading all the hand eye stuff, but I shocked myself and got full marks on it!

After this next stage there is just one more which is a routine sim check and if you complete that successfully you’re on the course! I really think that the interview is where I can shine and show that despite what may appear to be a poor head for maths, it is actually just a lack of practice and I can get up to standard quite easily in the 9 months before I start the course.

Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for your on going support, you guys all gave me brilliant advice that actually got the chief of selection saying that I’m exactly the type of person they are looking for! :p

Once again I’ll keep you updated, the next stage in on the 17th of September and if successful I’ll go on and do the sim check on the 18th!

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By: martin_EGTK - 2nd September 2003 at 23:47

Fantastic :)….I’ll stay the right side of you then!

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By: wysiwyg - 2nd September 2003 at 23:45

Now I can pull strings at EZY (I was best man at the wedding of one of their recruiters)…but not until you get a full license.

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By: martin_EGTK - 2nd September 2003 at 23:42

I’m not going to say too much just in case he’s listening….you never know with him :). But there are many more places that I would prefer to work. I’d like to get some serious big airport experience. easyJet offer good opportunities, ideally I’d love to start with them at Gatwick on the A319….but who knows what the future holds.

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By: wysiwyg - 2nd September 2003 at 23:40

I sincerely hope one day we will fly together…but never under a Ryanair banner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😉

You must take any decent opportunity that comes your way but I pray to god you get someone better than O’Leary as a boss!

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By: martin_EGTK - 2nd September 2003 at 23:36

Thanks for the advice wys, I’d imagine there are many people out there who will find something for me to try and avoid doing :D..my friend are probably the best place to start. I really appreciate all this advice….who know’s maybe one day I’ll be stuck in a confined space 16 hours with you trying not to pi55 you off 😉 😀 :p

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By: wysiwyg - 2nd September 2003 at 23:32

One other thing for the interview…any pilots who are assessing you will have one thing on their mind – can I sit next to this guy for 16 hours in a confined space without him pi55ing me off? Try and step back and view yourself from someone elses perspective. is there anything about yourself that you might wan to mildly alter. To me you seem an ideal candidate but ask someone you know (someone who will be genuinely honest with you, not your Mum!) if they could sit next to you for that period of time or if they can suggest something you might want to look at adapting in your persona.

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By: martin_EGTK - 2nd September 2003 at 23:22

Thanks wys, I use a Yoke and Rudder at home on the flight sim and I’m used to a yoke and rudder when I’ve been flying the PA-28’s around in real life. So fingers crossed it should be alright. It sounds like it’s almost identical to the first of the hand eye coordination tests that I took yesterday.

By the way BA and bmi actually helped to setup the selection procedure, so that is probably why it’s very similar! 🙂

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By: wysiwyg - 2nd September 2003 at 23:20

Ahh right. In that case the sim is probably a Frasca and will be referred to as a fixed base sim. I was worried they were going to stick you in one of their 737 sims but that wouldn’t really be fair. Your flight sim experience will be fine for preparation for the Frasca but use a flight yoke rather than a joystick. Pay particular attention to the slip ball and keeping it centered with the rudder pedals. They are not looking for perfection from the beginning but improvement throughout the session in order to show that you are receptive to teaching.

Do not under any circumstances try to appear to be a Seneca know all. Treat it as an anonymous aeroplane and let them give you the figures they want you to fly to.

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By: martin_EGTK - 2nd September 2003 at 23:13

Yeah it’s just a stationary Seneca V sim I think. Just to check that hand eye coordination was not just a fluke!

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By: wysiwyg - 2nd September 2003 at 23:10

It really sounds like the format is following the one that the BA selection process used to take about 10 years ago (and maybe still in use today). In that case the stuff I previously briefed you on will take place on the 17th. Any more info about the sim detail?

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By: Woundsinger - 2nd September 2003 at 21:48

Thats Brilliant news Martin …Well Done…
Now make sure you get at those books….:D 😉

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By: wannabe pilot - 2nd September 2003 at 18:53

Well done! Best you get stuck back into those GCSE revision books! No matter how awful they are. Somnething which I am gonna have to start doing this time next year : (

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By: martin_EGTK - 2nd September 2003 at 18:41

Ok here goes:

I arrived for my 14:30 appointment at 14:15, the session before mine had just come out with four very glum looking people who I didn’t get a chance to speak to. Around 6 people a week take the selection process. The wonderful thing about this selection is that no one is against anyone else, OAT give as many places as are needed, so if everyone is good enough, everyone gets in.

I sat down in reception and got talking to the other candidate, a lovely guy called David from Fife. He was at the other end of the spectrum at 32 but we got on really well.

We were then introduced to the head of selection at OAT, Diana Tothill, she was very good at putting us both at ease talking to us informally before giving us some papers to read on the maths section of the tests.

We then went into the room where the tests would be taken and were shown to our computer work stations.

Test 1
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The first test was devided into six parts:
Part 1: This was a reaction test utalising rudder pedals and a joystick. You had to keep a ball in a red zone which you controlled using the rudder pedals while keeping a needle in a red zone which was controlled by the joystick. I was convinced that I would do awfully on this stage and at the time I was not very happy about my performance but it turns out that I got full marks!

Part 2: The next test was a simple slalom in which you had to control a triangle through the course using the joystick. Once again I didn’t think I’d done too well on this one, but I got an above average score.

Part 3: The maths test…..this was a diasater. I really hadn’t prepared fully enough and ended up get a pretty poor score. Question were mainly aviation related such as percentages of fuel etc.

Part 4: This was the memory test, it was very simple you were given five second to remember an altitude, heading, speed and radio frequency then after the five second you had to write them into a box, basically like reading back readings to ATC. I scored High marks on this one.

Part 5: This was an instruments test. Basically you had three instruments at the top of the screen and then a selection of four aircraft positions at the bottom of the screen. You had to chose the right position based on instruments readings. I got full marks on this.

Park 6: This was the multi-tasking, we had to set an autopilot whilst turning off red lights using the correct buttons. We then had to continually adjust the auto pilot whilst continuing to turn off the rad lights. I got 6 out of 7 on this section.

Test 2
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This was simple 200 question personality test which posed no problems.

Test 3
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This was a technical test based entirely around physics. We were asked 15 multiple choice question, so far in the 10 months that this selection process has been going no one has got full marks and the highest ever mark is 13 out 15. I’ve not done physics in two years and once probably hadn’t prepared correctly for this section. I ended up getting all the aviation question right, but I only socred 6 out of 15. Normally the cut off point is 8, but because of my good results in the first two tests, and the fact that I can work on my physics in the next 9 months, I got invited to stages 2 and 3.

Once we’d finished we stayed and had an informal chat with Diana, at which point she very kindly said that I was the ideal kind of candidate as I had the drive and devotion to the industry despite.

We then went on to have a chat about airlines in general before finally leaving at 17:40.

Last night I really couldn’t sleep I was convinced that I had failed to get in based on my technical tests. But at 11 this morning I got a call from Mike Taylor saying that they want to take me through to the next stage as I seem promising, however I will ahve to work on my maths and physics!!!

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By: wysiwyg - 2nd September 2003 at 14:37

Well done Martin, onward and upward. Can you give us a full run down of the day (including info on the other candidates) and more detail about what will happen on the 17th.

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By: Ren Frew - 2nd September 2003 at 12:02

Wahey !:D 😎 😉 :p 😀

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