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Pilotless drone aircraft

I have read on the BBMF site that the LANCASTER was, during its service career, to be used as a “Pilotless drone” as per the text below

“On return to the United Kingdom PA474 was loaned to Flight Refuelling Ltd at Tarrant Rushton to be used as a pilotless drone”

How exactly would this have been achieved……and are they taken off and landed without damage, or are they a one time use and get ditched into the sea ?? :confused:

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By: merkle - 27th April 2010 at 13:21

G….. Damn it.. you mean my old set of flippers and snorkel wont suffice :diablo::D

… now ive read it.. i cant get that tune out me head either :(:D

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By: Wellington285 - 27th April 2010 at 03:09

Merkle
You would need gills or a yellow submarine I think most of these were shot down over the sea.
Damn it I cannot get that song out of My head now.
G.

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By: merkle - 27th April 2010 at 00:43

I was a radar technician engaged in Bloodhound Mk 2 trials at Aberporth – our radar and associated computer weighed 50 tons! On average I think we destroyed one Meteor or other target aircraft a week. The missile itself cost as much as a small house!Occasionally we had to stop due to Russian “trawlers” in the vicinity. My favourite occupation was tracking airliners approaching over the Atlatic.

i would love to know where these “drones” were shot down…. oooh the wealth of stuff that could be buried in the ground.. a aviation archaeologist heaven… saying that.. doubt much came down to earth after a bloodhound hit it , by the looks of the meteor in that Pathe film ๐Ÿ˜€

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By: Creaking Door - 26th April 2010 at 23:41

I think the large object tracking up the screen just before impact is actually the target – the missile is the small blob. Strange camera angle.

Ah yes, I see it now. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ I had assumed that because the missile was too small to see clearly that the film had been โ€˜doctoredโ€™ to show something intercepting (rather than a drone just exploding). As you say strange camera angle, or rather strange film orientation (the target and missile appear to swap places)!

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By: YellowAster - 26th April 2010 at 18:05

Tha Royal Canadian Airforce used two Lancasters 10’s for the carrying and launching of Ryan Firebee pilotless drones, KB848 and KB851 were the ones converted to 10-DC spec. Perhaps the UK government had a similar scheme in mind.
I cannot see the point in trying to use anything as big as a Lancaster as a drone, especially when a lot of smaller stuff was around in quantity.

Richard

I suspect the large size was the whole point. If your primary target is a Tu-4 then you want something the same size to practice on. Similar radar cross-section etc. I presume the drone Lancaster was cancelled since by 1950s there was a project to drone the Lincoln (Lincoln U.5). At least one was converted by FRL but the project got canned at the beginning of 1957.

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By: efiste2 - 26th April 2010 at 17:10

So basically these “drones” were piggybacked and set free from another aircraft with the hope that missiles would hit their target, or some sort of emergency destruct would be utilised. Going back to the PATHE link, Why doesnt a collection of these films get released, similar to the British Transport films ahve been ๐Ÿ™

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By: pogno - 26th April 2010 at 15:32

Tha Royal Canadian Airforce used two Lancasters 10’s for the carrying and launching of Ryan Firebee pilotless drones, KB848 and KB851 were the ones converted to 10-DC spec. Perhaps the UK government had a similar scheme in mind.
I cannot see the point in trying to use anything as big as a Lancaster as a drone, especially when a lot of smaller stuff was around in quantity.

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By: Papa Lima - 26th April 2010 at 14:00

I was a radar technician engaged in Bloodhound Mk 2 trials at Aberporth – our radar and associated computer weighed 50 tons! On average I think we destroyed one Meteor or other target aircraft a week. The missile itself cost as much as a small house!Occasionally we had to stop due to Russian “trawlers” in the vicinity. My favourite occupation was tracking airliners approaching over the Atlatic.

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By: YellowAster - 26th April 2010 at 13:55

Exactly what was that supposed to be that hit the Meteor drone; early CGI? ๐Ÿ˜€

I think the large object tracking up the screen just before impact is actually the target – the missile is the small blob. Strange camera angle.

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By: merkle - 25th April 2010 at 23:42

I liked the bit in the commentary about the “computer” guiding the bloodhound to the target. I bet my Golfs aircon has got a more powerful computer.

i wonder if it was just a big abacus ๐Ÿ˜€

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By: RedRedWine - 25th April 2010 at 23:13

I liked the bit in the commentary about the “computer” guiding the bloodhound to the target. I bet my Golfs aircon has got a more powerful computer.

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By: merkle - 25th April 2010 at 21:28

Exactly what was that supposed to be that hit the Meteor drone; early CGI? ๐Ÿ˜€

CGI ??

Noo, Bristols famous bloodhound missile ๐Ÿ˜€ its all in the vid .

it was as real as the messerschmitt scene in 633 sqn ๐Ÿ™‚

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By: Creaking Door - 25th April 2010 at 20:38

QB-17 Drone as a target for unguided air-to-air rockets…..fired from what I wonder?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA7LpbkpPps

Another QB-17 Drone destroyed by a Nike Hercules missile.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBtSrn1mNmc

This footage was used during ‘The World at War’ series and was quite terrifying when I thought that there may be crew aboard; I was very relieved years later when I found out it was an unmanned drone!

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By: Creaking Door - 25th April 2010 at 20:21

Exactly what was that supposed to be that hit the Meteor drone; early CGI? ๐Ÿ˜€

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By: merkle - 25th April 2010 at 20:17

i wonder if they were blown out of the sky.. re- missile trials , like the one on british pathe news, testing the bloodhound, they were knocking out a pilotless meteor jet

heres the link ๐Ÿ™‚

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=35332

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