Pilots oxygen mask, info required.

John,

A very nice 2A, it proves that mine doesn’t have the holes for the 2A visor and if they had taken care to fill them in with epoxy filler then they would have at least done the paint job properly:D.

Flightpath,

I spotted that one, it will no doubt fetch top book price too!!, I will keep my eyes out for a more used one that will be in keeping with the sate of the helmet:).

Regards,

John.

Thanks for the info, Mark, I was fairly sure it was a P-type but needed to make sure.

Will keep my peepers on evil bay and at the aerojumbles.

Regards,

John.

Hey mate, there’s a brand new one on Ebay right now………….

http://cgi.ebay.com/RAF-Pilot-Oxygen-Mask_W0QQitemZ130255245305QQihZ003QQcategoryZ121903QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em122

cheers,

-John

Flightpath,

A nice little phantom shrine:cool:

Thanks John,

actually I’m into Harrier stuff now, the Phantom FGR II flightcrew manual & patch will be traded for something simular to do with RAF/RN Harriers. If you know a Phantom nut who is interested and they have a Harrier book I’d do a trade!;)

cheers,

– (another) John

P.S. The grip is an unused one left over from the RAAF PC-9 program, it’s mounted on a base I made with an unused PC-9 data plate

Here’s my cr@p old bone dome: originally issued on Eagle in 1970 or 71, and starting to look like it! Ignore the boom mike fitting, they’ve been added in a later life, but you can see the various screw fittings to hold the Mk2A visor, and also the plastic plugs to hold the hard visor cover in place. A lot of holes to cover up, although the later 2A’s didn’t always have the hard plastic visor cover, so the holes for that wouldn’t necessarily be in the shell.

I bought a new Alpha Eagle earlier this year, to replace my 10 year old Alpha. When Aunty Betty was giving me all those neat bits of flying clothing, I’d never have imagined I’d be shelling out $A3k for my own bone dome. Back then, that was nearly 9 month’s salary, including flying pay 😮

Well, it’s certainly a Mk.3B now, but whether it was originally a Mk.2A is hard to tell from the photo. As John says, at first glance, I can’t make out the locations of the old fixing holes for the Mk.2A visor hinges – unless they’ve been well filled and obscured by the paint of course.

Nice helmet though and, getting back to the original question, a Type P or Q oxy mask would set it off a treat. 🙂

On first glance, that doesn’t look too much as if it has been modified from a 2A: I’ll take a photo of mine so that you can compare. Very rough paint job, as you say, which is unusual for a service item: the paint on helmets is usually an important safety item, and has to be done to high standards. If you are caught carrying the helmet by its chin strap, you’ll be up for a round of drinks: it weakens the shear pin in the fastener :p

Link to the Mk2 fitting instructions 😀

John,

I don’t think the thread has gone OT, I have learnt loads about helmets and we are still in the same area where we started off;).

anneorac,

As for holes the helmet does have what appears to be holes that have been filled in using a type of rivet or plug but not knowing where the fixing points for a 2A visor should be then I can’t say for sure that is what they might be.

Flightpath,

A nice little phantom shrine:cool:.

Here is my helmet, a very well worn and rough looking example but it is absolute gold to me, and it fits me noggin:D……..

Kindest regards,

John.

I realise that this thread has gone way OT, but I have my original “Instructions for fitting and maintenance of Mk2A” in the box with the bone dome. Anyone interested? A lot of the fitting instructions are pertinent to Mk 3’s, and it also has a part number list.

I must sound like a right geek :p

Hi,

here’s my MK.3C, it’s a converted MK.2 (with the holes).

The reflective tape covers most of the holes from where the central rail was when it was a MK.2.

cheers,

-John

Anne, f4phixer

Thanks for the info, added the helmet to my long list of things I need to aquire.

Paul

Sure they weren’t Mk.4 helmets? 1982 sounds a bit early even for the ALPHA Helmet which became the Mk.10 but it was around then that the Mk.4 helmets were starting to appear. Having said that…I wasn’t there and it wouldn’t be the first time I’ve been wrong.

FMK.6JOHN, I’ve got an easy way to tell if your helmet is a converted Mk.2. Does it have lots of holes in the side of it that serve no purpose? I’ve seen a few Mk.3C helmets which have been converted from Mk.2s and all had the holes for the Mk.2s visor cover still showing. I would suspect you’ve got a straight Mk.3A/B which, as MarkG said, uses the same basic shell as the Mk.2.

Anne

Was sitting having my tea when I realised my mistake. :o:o:o:o

Yep it was the Mk.4:o:o

Still wondering where I got the Mk.10 from:confused::confused::confused:

But then again we had two drivers on 43 [F] Sqn in 1982 with Mk 10a helmets.
Admittedly only 1 of them used it. the other preferred his issue USAF helmet !!
Plus the various aircrew with 1a’s, including 1 black with stars made out of reflective tape:eek::eek:

Sure they weren’t Mk.4 helmets? 1982 sounds a bit early even for the ALPHA Helmet which became the Mk.10 but it was around then that the Mk.4 helmets were starting to appear. Having said that…I wasn’t there and it wouldn’t be the first time I’ve been wrong.

FMK.6JOHN, I’ve got an easy way to tell if your helmet is a converted Mk.2. Does it have lots of holes in the side of it that serve no purpose? I’ve seen a few Mk.3C helmets which have been converted from Mk.2s and all had the holes for the Mk.2s visor cover still showing. I would suspect you’ve got a straight Mk.3A/B which, as MarkG said, uses the same basic shell as the Mk.2.

Anne

Oops, must have missed it first time round!!, link does not seem to work for me though?.:o

http://www.newarkairmuseum.org/newsItem.php?id=44

Regards,

John.

Dashed colons : 😮 😮 😮 re-copied the link! http://www.newarkairmuseum.org/news.php

Ooh…Aircrew Equipment Assemblies…Minefield!

Lots of bits of kit which look very much the same but have small differences depending on which aircraft or role you’re going to undertake.

Just for instance, there are currently at least 6 versions of the P-type mask in service and that’s not including the Q, T, PR, QR and V types which all look pretty much like each other.

Now I’m no expert but for a Jaguar c 1984, I would guess a Mk.3C Helmet with some sub variant of the Type V Oxygen Mask and probably with a black hose and face piece although the green versions may have been around at that time.

Anne

But then again we had two drivers on 43 [F] Sqn in 1982 with Mk 4a helmets.
Admittedly only 1 of them used it. the other preferred his issue USAF helmet !!
Plus the various aircrew with 1a’s, including 1 black with stars made out of reflective tape:eek::eek:

Oops, must have missed it first time round!!, link does not seem to work for me though?.

http://www.newarkairmuseum.org/newsItem.php?id=44

Regards,

John.

Excellent news!, as soon as a date is set I will be there,

The date is Saturday November 22, 2008 – easier to spot here!http://www.newarkairmuseum.org/news.php :confused: 😮

Thanks for the info Anne, will keep my eyes on the stalls:D.

Regards,

John.

Lightnings circa 1980, you’ll be after a Type P2A or Q2A mask then.

Anne.

Excellent news!, as soon as a date is set I will be there, as for the hat, thanks to all the info I am certain it is a Mk3B modified from a Mk2A and it is a genuine article.

All I need to do now is tally up the other history with it which shouldn’t be a problem.

Any advances on the Sqadron leader of 5Sqd, RAF Binbrook 1980?.

Kindest regards,

John.

Thanks for the info, Mark, I was fairly sure it was a P-type but needed to make sure.

Will keep my peepers on evil bay and at the aerojumbles.

Regards,

John.

Perhaps you could look here John http://www.newarkairmuseum.org/newsItem.php?id=44 😀