PLAN Carrier Updates.

I have been saying it for five long years now- She’s going to Sea in PLAN colours!

Yes it is smoke coming from the stack, this would mean that something is working inside- now I wonder, considering the amount of cooling units on the above pics arranged across the decks, I wonder if they haven’t tapped these into the stack below in some kind of ad-hoc ventilation with respraying the hanger area, to help dry it out quicker! We did something similar when I was in the navy with STS Young Endeavour.

So? What if?
What if not? (some have suggested it is coming from the crane behind)

It looks like….

i just seen this pic over on sinodefence, is that smoke coming out of its stack :confused:

… or they are pumping steam from an external source through the piping on order to test them.

(not saying this actually is the case, just that there is no way of telling from just that sign: by itself it could mean very different things)

Looks like she has live boilers.

So I assume this bilboard’s message alone answers a lot of our questions here! 😉

Regards,

HAmmer

Rough translation: Steam Test, Keep away.

Is anybody able to do a rough translation of the Banner in the photo?

She was only allowed to pass through the Bosporus & Dardanelles because she was a hulk, which had to be towed. If she’d been refurbished in Ukraine, the Montreux Convention would have kicked in.[/QUOTE]
Well, they could just stick an SSM launcher on it and declare it as a ‘Heavy Aviation Cruiser’ in the Soviet style. And remove it once it got out.;)

Man, I’m so envious. It’s a good thing(for the Chinese) that the PLAN did’t just have the Varyag refurbished in Ukraine in the first place;

Yup. It would be such a waste, having a fully functional refurbished aircraft carrier stuck in the Black Sea, wouldn’t it? :diablo:

She was only allowed to pass through the Bosporus & Dardanelles because she was a hulk, which had to be towed. If she’d been refurbished in Ukraine, the Montreux Convention would have kicked in.

At least, they would have to redesign the propulsion part entirely and should add at least 4,000 t of additional radiation shielding to the reactor compartment. This would cost a least several hundred millions of $ and take additional years. In one word, better start from scratch a new design.

Please don’t shoot me down in flames for suggesting this crazy idea but out of interest how hard would it be for China to convert her into a nuclear powered aircraft carrier?

Man, I’m so envious. It’s a good thing(for the Chinese) that the PLAN did’t just have the Varyag refurbished in Ukraine in the first place; not only did it save them a lot of money, but the Chinese shipyard here looks better equipped for the role than any Russian or Ukrainian yard. Look at those cranes!

Some new pictures !

Deino

Well if they have fitted the mast to the real carrier and they tested it on the mock up I would say both radars will be fitted.

It could be they are using the C Band Top Plate/Type 381 as a 3D volumetric search radar whilst the S Band Type 346 PAR is acting in a multipurpose role supporting the ships defences etc.

Also as this ship will probably have a significant test role maybe they wanted to fit both types to compare their effectiveness in carrier operations.

Some new pictures have gone up of the training mock up and the carrier itself:

http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2010/08/chinese-aircraft-carrier-photos-early.html

Notice the Top Plate copy isn’t on the mock up anymore but the fixed AESA arrays are installed.

Wow.:eek: Looks just about finished. It’s gonna be interesting to see which one enters service first: this or Vikramaditya.

The Top Plate is unnecessary anyway: The AESA serves the same role. Speaking of which, where’s the fourth(rear) antenna mounted?

Some new pictures have gone up of the training mock up and the carrier itself:

http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2010/08/chinese-aircraft-carrier-photos-early.html

Notice the Top Plate copy isn’t on the mock up anymore but the fixed AESA arrays are installed.

Yes, except there is no news whatsoever of any purchase of Russian boilers, as I said before.

As was pointed out, China is well capable of making its own boilers.
Moreover, I fail to see what bearing your reply has on my response to a question by Nils.

Varyag would have a(the) late(st) model KVG-3 boiler (see below). The white block you are referring to is not even vaguely reminiscent of a KVG-3 type boiler. In fact, there is nothing in the pic(s) to suggest it is being installed on board the Varyag, or even intended for installation on it, or is even on the dockside along the Varyag. Looking at the two photo’s accompanying that pic, I’m more inclined to think it is a cooling element associated with the fixed planar phased arrays.

Boiler pic and info from an MilParade article that is no longer available online. ( http://milparade.udm.ru/24/contents.htm )

Yes, except there is no news whatsoever of any purchase of Russian boilers, as I said before.