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Planes of Fame F14 seized

Interesting article posted on another forum wrt ‘preserved’ F14’s at Chino….

4 F-14s seized at Southland airports
The fighter jets were not properly demilitarized and their sale was
improper, officials say.
By Maeve Reston and Garrett Therolf, Times Staff Writers
March 7, 2007

Federal agents seized four F-14 Tomcat fighters in San Bernardino County on
Tuesday – three from airplane museums – after investigators determined that
the jets were not demilitarized and were improperly sold or transferred to
private companies, including the producer of the TV show “JAG,” authorities
said.

When the jets were retired in the mid-1990s at the Naval Air Station at
Point Mugu, Navy officials failed to ensure that the aircraft were stripped
of military hardware, according to a court affidavit filed by a U.S.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent.

Three of the fighter jets then were sold, in “unauthorized deals,” to an
Oxnard scrap company for $4,000 or less apiece, and one was acquired as a
prop for the military drama “JAG,” according to the affidavit and federal
officials.

The proceeds from the sales went to a Morale Welfare and Recreation Fund for
a squadron at the Ventura County naval base, according to the federal
affidavit, filed by ICE Special Agent Joshua Barnett.

On Tuesday, customs agents and officials with the Defense Criminal
Investigative Service seized two of the fighters from the Yanks Air Museum
and one from the Planes of Fame air museum, both at the Chino Airport.
Investigators learned about the F-14s during an undercover sting operation
when they were investigating the potential sale of jet fighter parts to
Iran, according to the affidavit.

A fourth jet, originally acquired by the producers of “JAG,” was seized from
an airport in Victorville, where it was housed. The plane is owned by an El
Mirage aviation company.

“The investigation has not uncovered any evidence that these planes have
been plundered for parts by people with nefarious motives,” said Virginia
Kice, a spokeswoman for ICE, “but the fact that they were not properly
demilitarized certainly presents a potential vulnerability.”

Federal officials fear that parts from any decommissioned F-14 could find
their way onto the worldwide black market, Barnett stated in his affidavit,
adding that “Iran is the only nation to still have the F-14 in its active
fleet.”

Thom Mrozek, a spokesman for the U.S. attorney’s office in Los Angeles, said
no one had been charged but said the investigation was continuing. “There
are some issues related to statute of limitations, and we’re examining those
issues.”

Defense Department officials have determined that the F-14s should have been
destroyed by an authorized contractor when they were taken out of military
service between 1996 and 1998, according to the affidavit.

Instead, the officer in charge of demilitarizing the planes “improperly and
without authority” released three of them to an Oxnard company, California
Public Recycling, for disposal as scrap metal, even though the parts that
made up the fighter jet were specifically barred from release to scrap metal
recycling programs, the federal court document alleged.

Marc Keenberg, a consultant to California Public Recycling, confirmed that
the company received several military airplanes at that time but described
them as “already in scrap condition.”

Keenberg said the recycling company sold the planes to another scrap yard
and lost track of them after that.

The producer of “JAG,” said his company went through proper military
channels when it acquired the retired F-14.

“They didn’t sell us one. They gave us one, and they removed the engines,”
said Don Bellisario, whose company now produces the military drama “NCIS.”
“The Navy said to us, ‘We can give you an old aircraft, but we have to demil
[demilitarize] it before we can give it to you.’ I just assumed that’s what
happened.”

The Navy also “broke its back,” meaning that the F-14’s fuselage was sliced
in half and then welded back together, Bellisario said. Unable to fly, the
jet was used as a prop for shots on the ground and had to be towed around,
he said.

That plane in 2005 was sold to the company Aviation Warehouse in El Mirage,
which was storing the F-14 at Southern California Logistics Airport in
Victorville.

Mark Thomson, president of Aviation Warehouse, said the company also bought
the other three F-14s for $5,000 apiece from a middleman, who was
facilitating the sale for California Public Recycling in Oxnard. They later
were sold to the Yanks airplane museum in Chino for $50,000 apiece, Thompson
said.

Thomson, 65 of Adelanto, said he was outraged by the seizure of the planes
and plans to fight the government’s actions.

“When I bought the planes, everything was 100% totally legal and
aboveboard,” said Thomson, whose company provides props for movie television
productions.

During the 17-month investigation, former Navy Chief Warrant Officer Mark
Holmes told authorities that his Point Mugu unit – known as VX-9
Detachment – handled the sale of fighter jets. He said one of his superiors
instructed him to contact scrap dealers to see if they were interested in
“picking up F-14s for scrap,” according to the court affidavit.

Holmes said the officer in charge set the price for the aircraft between
$2,000 and $4,000. The checks for the planes were placed into a fund
identified as the VX-9 Morale Welfare and Recreation fund, the affidavit
stated.

There was no documentation of the sales or papers showing that the planes
had been demilitarized, federal officials said.

Navy officials said referred all questions to the U.S. attorney’s office and
said they were cooperating with the investigation.

Federal officials are dismantling the planes and will ship them to a
military yard in Tucson for storage and “final demilitarization.”

Shame there is not a way to authorise correct demilling and retain them at their curent homes, since other recent retirees from the inventory are actively being offered to museums…….

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By: Fw190-A4 - 8th March 2007 at 21:12

Re: Tomcat at DX

Well there is a lot of space to prep another stand on the grass to the right of the F15; or better still in front of the glass on the hard stuff!

If the IWM was worried about corrosion then they would be mindful to remember these naval types were designed to live & breathe in the harsh waters of the world. I rather think a bit of english rain was not going to worry a ‘Tomcat’.

I rather think if it was DX which turned it down it was due to the fact ‘Airspace’ needs as much funding as possible to finish it. Afterall I understand they are a few quid off budget! Also all IWM restoration focus is on ‘commonwealth’ aircraft.

It would be great for the IWM to now crack on restoring the Shackleton or Victor which ironically have suffered years of the english weather; rather than a F14!:)

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By: JonathanF - 8th March 2007 at 17:26

A pity since those airframes are certainly historic (groundbreaking U.S. & European swept wing jets..with the Mystere beating the Hunter into the air by 5 months…and a pioneering delta)…as is the F-14.

I’d have loved to have seen a Tomcat at DX (no idea whether they were offered one). But where the heck would they have put it? It’s pretty much “one in, one out” in the AAM.

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By: bexWH773 - 8th March 2007 at 13:28

I suspect someone in the Federal Government has just seen a repeat of ‘Iron Eagle’….

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ROTFL good one TT, lets just hope they dont watch the whole lot, coz if i remember there was one that had a load of prop fighters etc. Bex :diablo:

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By: TEXANTOMCAT - 8th March 2007 at 13:19

I suspect someone in the Federal Government has just seen a repeat of ‘Iron Eagle’….

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By: J Boyle - 8th March 2007 at 01:36

….collecting policy which has led them to dispose of airframes such as the F-86A, Mystere IV and Draken.

A pity since those airframes are certainly historic (groundbreaking U.S. & European swept wing jets..with the Mystere beating the Hunter into the air by 5 months…and a pioneering delta)…as is the F-14.

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By: Mark12 - 7th March 2007 at 23:47

Quite right, Mark. Better start hiding all those Spitfire spares just in case the Iranian airforce has one or two lurking about. What a crazy world.

Tangmere,

I thought we agreed not to mention the Iranian Spitfires!!

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By: Arabella-Cox - 7th March 2007 at 23:38

Nice timing.

This has the ‘smack’ of Weapons of Mass Destruction and armoured vehicles on duty at LHR about it, prior to the Iraq fiasco.

These must surely be the F-14’s I saw and photographed at Chino in June 1999!

Mark

Quite right, Mark. Better start hiding all those Spitfire spares just in case the Iranian airforce has one or two lurking about. What a crazy world.

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By: J Boyle - 7th March 2007 at 23:06

The aircraft are probably harmless…
but bureaucratic inflexibility being what its is (and not just in the U.S….witness some of the less popular CAA and EU rules that impact historic aviation…no Lightnings and the Sally B insurance woes)….
the fact that F-14s are still in IIAF inventory means someone has to keep an eye out for spare parts trafficing.
Common sense.

If you can get byond a narrow midset of “let’s save all planes”, imagine the fallout if F-14s were used against US or EU forces.
Rightly, there would be hell to pay.

Somehow I don’t think BAe dispatched any spares to Argentina during the Falklands campaign. Likewise, there is an old story that Boeing denied USSRs request for B-29 landing gear parts when they were making Tu-4s. Not to memntion the embargo against delivering aircraft the French government placed (and paid for?) following the German occupation.

Besides, the F-14 is hardly an endangered species….

BTW: As mentioned in the recent FlyPast article on F-14s…which UK museum recently refused one?

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By: Mark12 - 7th March 2007 at 22:44

Nice timing.

This has the ‘smack’ of Weapons of Mass Destruction and armoured vehicles on duty at LHR about it, prior to the Iraq fiasco.

These must surely be the F-14’s I saw and photographed at Chino in June 1999!

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By: frankvw - 7th March 2007 at 21:54

PCG: that’s the one!

Curlyboy: It is the one at the top right. You couldn’t have seen it by then, it is behind a building, and they closed access to the public, because some people did damage to the planes.

Also to be found there: a Belgian F-104G, and most interesting, a QF-100 that survived a missile hit. The tail and exhaust are well damaged by the blast. A real scale model subject 🙂

The 2 ones parked together are not at planes of fame, that’s Yankees air museum.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 7th March 2007 at 21:08

If you look on google earth there is 3 F14s at chino one is at planes of fame and the other 2 are at the chino air museum.

They must be fairly new there as there was no F14 at planes of fame when i went last June.

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7046/pofut1.jpg

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By: bloodnok - 7th March 2007 at 21:07

i think the timing of these aircraft siezures is quite telling…..as said in the article, the only other people who operate the F-14 are Iran….potentially the next people on americas hitlist.

just imagine if they did invade, and then find parts off these museum aircraft on Iranian ones that might have shot down attacking american ones.

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By: pcg - 7th March 2007 at 20:55

Well, if one of them is the Tomcat I saw in Chino 3 years back, I don’t see what they could stip of it.

See attached a picture of that plane.

The planes seized :
http://www.nbc4.tv/2007/0307/11187352.jpg

(http://www.nbc4.tv/news/11187298/detail.html)

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By: frankvw - 7th March 2007 at 20:25

Well, if one of them is the Tomcat I saw in Chino 3 years back, I don’t see what they could stip of it. The plane has been, at places, damaged with an axe or something !

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By: bexWH773 - 7th March 2007 at 20:12

Interesting article I must say, also somewhat fishy……. Why would Immagration & Customs be interested in ex military aircraft? Another one is a nice tidy profit too, fancy buying a “scrap” airframe for $5000 then selling it to a museum for $50,000, not very museum friendly that is it?? This sounds to me like a bum covering excercise, someone hasnt “dotted the I & crossed the T” and theres been a panic, especially as the Iranians still fly F14’s. Oh well. Bex

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