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Polish Air Force in France 1939

I am trying to find out more information about my father-in-law’s time in the Polish Air Force. F/O Boleslaw Palej (Bolek Paley)

From his Fiche de Demobilisation we can see that on 8th October 1939 he signed up with the Polish Air Force in Le Bourget, France.

This document also states that his occupation at the outbreak of the war was “Militaire de carrière”, he already was in the military. Was he already in the Air Force before he left Poland? We don’t know, nor do we know how to find out.

Also it states that his address at this time was “Stanisławów – Pologne”. Is this the area now called Ivano-Frankivsk in Ukraine? If so, was there a Polish military base, training camp here?

The next reference we have to him is on 11th July 1941 as a pilot in the 303 Squadron in England. We would love to have more information about what happened to the Polish Air Force in France and about their transition over to England
08-10-1939 FICHE DE DÉMOBILISATION
L’ARMEE POLONAISE,
LA FOUILLOUSE – SURESNES (Seine)
Tel: Malmaison 03-22
Armée de l’Air Grade: Sous-Lieutenant
Bolesław H. Palej
Né le 14 Septembre 1915 a Bitków – Pologne
Nationalité: Polonaise
Situation de famille: marié, 1 enfants
Profession exercée avant les hostilitiés: Militaire de carrière
Adresse avant les hostilitiés: Stanisławów – Pologne
Adresse où se retire l’intéressé: Réincorporé aux Forces Allièes
Bureau de recrutement: Bataillon de l’Air No. 144 – Le Bourget.
Base Aérienne de Chateauroux
Spécialité: pilote-de Chasse
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By: antoni - 2nd March 2008 at 13:18

Perhaps the date has something to do with when he reported to the military in Rumania after escaping. A commission on the 1st September looks like he was still a cadet at the outbreak of war. Perhaps he was one of the 50 officer cadets that Urbanowicz took to Rumania on a requisitioned coach. If so, he would not have seen any action. “They wanted to fight and I kept explaining to them that I understood their desire to grab a gun and have a go at the enemy, but that they would make lousy infantry men. They were worth more in the air ….. My job was to take them where they could again climb into the cockpit of the fighter plane.”

Conditions in Bron-Lyons were pretty grim. These days they would be called ‘severe depredation.’ The French divided the Poles into professional soldiers and reservists. Reservists received only minimum pay on which it was impossible to survive. Likely it was these conditions that caused his illness. A full account can be found in Grzegorz Śliżewski’s Stracone Złudzenia The Lost Hopes (bilingual). It seems it is still available.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 2nd March 2008 at 02:16

The first organised groups of Polish soldiers started to arrive in France at the end of October 1939. He must have got there very quickly! Are you sure the date isn’t the 10th August, when he was mobilised?

His Fiche is states: date a laquelle il a rejoint cette formation (date has which it rejoined this formation) clearly dated 8th October 1939 for his mobilisation,
On the rear it states: la somme de
et la prime de demobilisation (the sum of and the premium of demobilisation) and has a date stamp: 9 MAI 1945

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By: Arabella-Cox - 2nd March 2008 at 01:56

This is a copy of his Fiche de Demobilisation, dated 8th October 1939. He also acquired a French driving licence on 20th December 1939

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By: RAF Millom - 1st March 2008 at 23:32

I have the following,

Boleslaw Henryk Paley was born on the 14th of September 1915 in Bitkow in the district of Nadworna, he later lived in Stanislawow, which is now part of the Ukraine, he went to school and college to study mathematics and sciences leaving in 1935.

He joined the Polish Airforce on the 27th September 1937 at the Polish Air Force Officers School in Deblin with No 13 entry, upon completion he was commissioned with the rank of Pilot Officer on the 1st September 1939

With the beginning of the war all pilots in his year were evacuated to Romania and then by train to France via Italy after arriving at Lyon on the 8th January 1940 he became ill, later he was posted to Chateauroux airfield on the 1st March 1940 to take up flight training, he was later evacuated via Bordeaux to England, by ship, probably the Arandorra Star which arrived at Liverpool in late June 1940.

I have a copy his Polish Airforce Records amongst other info somewhere so I will look them out to see what more I can add, I seem to recall he was involved in military ballooning before the war

The attached photo I understand is a pre war one.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 1st March 2008 at 13:46

In ‘Poles in Defence of Britain’ Paley is noted in one of the appendices

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By: antoni - 1st March 2008 at 12:20

The Polish Institute and Sikorski Museum, 20 Princes Gate, London SW7 1P, should have his military record, both pre-war and while in the UK. http://www.sikorskimuseum.co.uk/

Poland had a system like national Service. You could join the Air Force, qualify as a pilot and then return to civilian life. You would then becoame part of the reserve, bit like being in the Territorial Army. Very similar to the system countries like Switzerland operate. The first organised groups of Polish soldiers started to arrive in France at the end of October 1939. He miust have giot there very quickly! Are you sure the date isn’t the 10th August, when he was mobilised?

There is no mention of him in the ‘The Lost Hopes’ by Grzegorz Śliżewski or Polish Wings 2 by Bartłomiej Belcarz.

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By: JDK - 1st March 2008 at 08:05

PM me your e-mail, and I’ll see what my colleage, an expert on the Polish Air Force in France can come up with.
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