Political Correctness.

Hi Jay, Thanks for the photo, it looks like a nice place,:o and very modern in it’s appearance. Nothing like the one that closed a year or two ago.
Jim
Lincoln .7

Hi Jim

That’s Corkers :very_drunk: a few doors next.

Here is the Traditional London Cobbler at West Byfleet :applause:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.338991,-0.505511,3a,75y,138.13h,93.64t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sxVFiL8_TMV4AAAQZPNntqw!2e0!3e2!7i13312!8i6656

The worst men’s dress faux pas ? Formal suit and tie worn with colourful trainers ! Seen in London last week; not once, but several times.

I sometimes do this, but only when I’m out of the office and travelling too and from work. For one thing it keeps the wear down on my brogues and is a little more comfortable. Women do the same thing!

For things like weddings, christenings and funerals a suit and tie, not to mention a well polished pair of shoes, is the only accepted style of dress for a man. At least that’s my opinion regardless how unfashionable and behind the times my thinking may be.

You’re doing absolutely the right thing. Stick to your values then maybe more will copy you.

The worst men’s dress faux pas ? Formal suit and tie worn with colourful trainers ! Seen in London last week; not once, but several times.

For things like weddings, christenings and funerals a suit and tie, not to mention a well polished pair of shoes, is the only accepted style of dress for a man. At least that’s my opinion regardless how unfashionable and behind the times my thinking may be.

I agree. Maybe it’s an age thing ? As I get older I seem to go to funerals quite regularly, and It’s not unusual to
see youngsters in pretty casual attire.
It is nice to dress up now and again. Perhaps different if you’ve had a job where a suit was the everyday norm ?

Part of the problem lies with the fact that fashion rules and once “celebrities” are seen attending formal events dressed for the beach the sheep will follow. Whilst I have no objection to a tieless shirt I always feel that in conjunction with a two piece or worse a three piece suit it looks as though the wearer simply forgot it. The Greek PM plus most of his male cabinet members look slightly undressed. But it’s probably just my age!!

I think that a decent pair of shoes, nicely polished, IS part of a fashion statement, There is a saying, “You can always tell the type of man he is by looking at his shoes”. I like to wear a suit, shirt and tie. however, a couple of years or so ago, I went to a wedding, and was gobsmacked to see one or two men, dressed in track suit bottoms, Trainers, open necked shirt, and the familiar bomber style jackets. Is it me, lagging behind, and holding on to old fashioned ways, ie, “Suited and booted” or am I just not “Cool” by not following the current trend?.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

For things like weddings, christenings and funerals a suit and tie, not to mention a well polished pair of shoes, is the only accepted style of dress for a man. At least that’s my opinion regardless how unfashionable and behind the times my thinking may be.

Yes, as you say, there are far and away more clothes shops for women than men. Now………………………I wonder if I could get a Sex Change on the NHS. Lol………..:D
Jim.
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Yes, I very much agree but I meant that for a man a good pair of shoes in terms of design and colour is fairly limited, but for a woman her choice of designs and colours and therefore reasons for buying as and when the fashion dictates, are far greater.

I think that a decent pair of shoes, nicely polished, IS part of a fashion statement, There is a saying, “You can always tell the type of man he is by looking at his shoes”. I like to wear a suit, shirt and tie. however, a couple of years or so ago, I went to a wedding, and was gobsmacked to see one or two men, dressed in track suit bottoms, Trainers, open necked shirt, and the familiar bomber style jackets. Is it me, lagging behind, and holding on to old fashioned ways, ie, “Suited and booted” or am I just not “Cool” by not following the current trend?.
Jim.
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Shoes are far less of a fashion statement for men as they are for women, I think, and certainly I grew up when there was little choice, so have tended to spend on very good quality shoes which I rarely have to replace, and which a good “cobbler” will keep in good nick for many years. Sandals and lighter stuff for the summer are different.

I thought the Trade of being a Cobbler, went out years ago, I know or local one did, he stated it was cheaper to by new shoes these days, than to get a pair of shoes, Soled and heeled.
Jim.
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There has been something of a revival in owning good shoes. I’ve stumbled upon a couple of new (surprisingly high-end) Cobblers online. One of them made several blog posts in which he brought a worn out set of brogues back from the brink of death. If the leather is in good condition then good shoes can keep going on and on. To counter this, the last pair of brogues I purchased from Clarks had heavily cracked leather and had been sprayed with lacquer rather than polished. They looked good for a week. I had to strip them with acetone, re-dye them and then apply coats of saddle oil to get them waterproof (they changed colour when it rained as the cracks took in water).

People like cheap stuff, but buying new shoes all the time can get boring.

Hi Jay, Are you sure it’s not the name of the local “Pub?”…….:very_drunk:
Jim.
Lincoln .7

I thought the Trade of being a Cobbler, went out years ago, I know or local one did, he stated it was cheaper to by new shoes these days, than to get a pair of shoes, Soled and heeled.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

Hi Jim
Right opposite West Byfleet rail station there is a “London Cobbler” (so the sign says) – maybe he does dinosaur hides as well.:highly_amused:

That’s a surprising fact Chas, I thought they had all gone the way of the Dinasaures.
Jim.
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There are three independent repairers within 2/3 miles around here and of course there are hundreds of John Timpson branches nationwide.

I thought the Trade of being a Cobbler, went out years ago, I know or local one did, he stated it was cheaper to by new shoes these days, than to get a pair of shoes, Soled and heeled.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

I was just listening online to a radio interview Groucho Marx did in 1963. He lamented the (then) current state of TV saying the networks got very nervous if you did anything too edgy.
But, he said, “…it’s getting better”.

Well, Groucho, it got better, then got worse again.

Oh dear, oh dear, you thoughtless, unfeeling, insensitive fool – you have upset shoe repairers up and down the land in your second paragraph.;);)

Jim

An interesting and thought provoking start to a thread.

PC – what a load of cobblers :highly_amused:(I was going to say bo.locks but it might offend those with none:D)

They got rid of the logo on Robertsons Marmalade, and labelled Enid Bylton as Racist and pro gay.

Has any of this PC nonsense improved relationships or attitudes between people of diverse backgrounds? IMO NO.

PC is outward control but inside each person there will be preferences and prejudices based on the values “injested” since birth. Home, school, university and religion have great influence over people during formative years.
A child harmed psychologically or physically is scarred for life and horrendous results usually manifest in later years.

Why not scrap PC? :applause:
Each individual should be discerning on the proviso that their personal preferences and prejudices do not cause impairment of professional development in others, hatred towards others or provoke acts of anti socialism or at the extreme acts of terrorism or war.

There are still a few advertisements for British Pork and Sausages thank goodness but try finding an affordable restuarant serving pork or its allied food products on the menu in London.

One can ask the question, isn’t PC actually extremely one sided ie we are all being made to feel guilty about things inherently with us since birth and instead pay respect to religions and practices that have no respect for their own never mind westerners.

A sad destiny IMO