April 8, 2009 at 8:23 am
Hi all
I’m sure that someone out there may be able to help me. A colleague of mine is making a model of Lanc FM104 c1950s. The kit itself has a red cheatline whereas a corresponding aftermarket decal sheet has a blue one. Obviously he now has a dilemma over which to apply and the net and reference books have not been able to help.
If anyone can provide a definitive answer it would be much appreciated
cheers
John
By: pagen01 - 9th April 2009 at 09:47
I’ve got the RAF Coastal Command one and going to transfer the relevant mods over to the Revell kit, more correct and a third of the price!
I guess there are more extra bits in the RCAF kit though.
By: 12jaguar - 9th April 2009 at 08:57
He’s more than aware of those:rolleyes:
By: pagen01 - 9th April 2009 at 08:23
Better not mention the mistakes on the kit itself then!
By: 12jaguar - 9th April 2009 at 07:55
Additions/corrections duly noted:)
By: XM692. - 8th April 2009 at 18:35
Hi K225
My colleague is happy now:D
We had an inkling it was blue through looking at B&W contrasts, but this confirms it
cheers
John
But he’ll still need to add RESCUE to the underside on the bomb doors. 😀
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By: K225 - 8th April 2009 at 18:06
You will also notice the cheatline doesn’t extend past the waist band. The decal sheet shows it going to the tail.
By: J Boyle - 8th April 2009 at 17:41
I love the RCAF Lanc Rescue scheme and the other 50-60s RCAF paint designs (C-45, B-25, C-47, P-51 with red tips, etc.)
Good to see someone is making a kit/decals for it.
By: pagen01 - 8th April 2009 at 16:31
Like I say, always worth probing the actual aircraft background a bit, easy to fall for what is generally correct but exceptions are always out there.
It would be a bit odd to offer replacement decals that are completely wrong.
By: 12jaguar - 8th April 2009 at 13:52
Hi K225
My colleague is happy now:D
We had an inkling it was blue through looking at B&W contrasts, but this confirms it
cheers
John
By: K225 - 8th April 2009 at 13:35
This photo of 213 at Torbay shows the blue cheatline.
By: 12jaguar - 8th April 2009 at 12:46
I think that this where the problem lies, you’d assume that both manufacturers would have done their homework, but mistakes in markings do happen. The box art/decal may show one thing but is it necessarily correct.
John
By: pagen01 - 8th April 2009 at 12:02
It would seem odd though that Xtradecal would change from the well known correct scheme in the box to what would appear to be an incorrect scheme. Might be worth some research to see if a special scheme was applied to this Lancaster at some time
By: XM692. - 8th April 2009 at 10:22
John,
Alas Xtradecal aren’t infalable. Hasegawa have it as red/daglo in their kit, which i suspect is correct. By 1961 FM104 had its scheme changed to the more common upper white fuselage with red/white/red broader stripes.

Xtradecal also missed the fact the word ‘RESCUE’ is written in large letters on the bomb doors, thus….
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By: 12jaguar - 8th April 2009 at 09:49
The paint scheme for the Xtradecal kit is here
http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=X72062
As can be seen the cheatline is a thin blue one. The kit has it as red.
Thanks for the photo links but these show a later scheme
John
By: 12jaguar - 8th April 2009 at 09:45
sorry…
Hasegawa and Xtradecal respectively
By: XM692. - 8th April 2009 at 09:09
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Ok i’ll rephrase that…. what is the make of the kit and the after market decal sheet ?
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By: pagen01 - 8th April 2009 at 08:43
Generally speaking the RCAF used a red stepped and pointed cheatline, with another white line in the middle of it. This was used on most of their large aircraft (Lancaster, Neptune, Argus, Aurora, C-119, C-130 etc) well into the ’80s.
There is a link to some nice colour RCAF Lanc pics here http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/album/data/601/medium/34149a445604e5204103d35d17e78e35.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/album/showphoto.php%3Fphoto%3D11420%26cat%3Dall%26si%3DLancaster&usg=__yFDT0-FPupzKBRNRNkIPWZC-Luw=&h=486&w=600&sz=50&hl=en&start=38&tbnid=u7peyFhf4r9ekM:&tbnh=109&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3Drcaf%2Blancaster%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D20%26um%3D1&um=1
By: 12jaguar - 8th April 2009 at 08:26
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By: XM692. - 8th April 2009 at 08:25
Which kit ?
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