Prank-called Nurse Found Dead

Watching the BBC’s Newswatch programme today, a couple of people
complaining about the BBC’s part in the suicide, made a good point.

The prank call was treated by most people (including Prince Charles) as a joke.
Then the BBC kept replaying the call over and over again. Nobody from their
news department wanted to make a comment.

What I would like to know is why does a high profile member of the royal family take calls? .

But she didn’t, did she?

As to the Nurse topping herself. Probably more to this then meets the eye

Quite possibly another “seeker of the truth” (aka member of the gutter press) was making enquiries, planning to splash her name over the tabloids, and the girl found out about it.

Thought you were keeping the Monarchy?

To start with, anyway – I can’t see an independent Scotland wanting to keep those anglified Sax Coburg und Gothas for long…;)

What I would like to know is why does a high profile member of the royal family take calls? Can’t the Madge get her on the mobile?
As to the Nurse topping herself. Probably more to this then meets the eye.

No, just the money.

Thought you were keeping the Monarchy?

England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland! 😉

You think so? Watch this space…;)

How far back do you want to go in history CD?

I don’t know really; my history of the Monarchy isn’t good and my history in general is patchy before the First World War.

I suppose my contention about the Crown Estates is that if you go back to 1066 you’re effectively saying that the Monarchy is paying-their-way out of land that they conquered, that is to say ‘stole’, from somebody else (if not actually ‘us’). Of course the government has done a fair bit of land-theft themselves; Enclosure? (And I’m definitely out of my history comfort zone there.)

What about the Restoration? I’m pretty sure there was no theft involved there and an agreement between the Monarch and government; surely after this date the Monarchy were legally entitled to the Crown Estate.

I suppose in that respect ‘we’ are lucky; post-Restoration surely the Monarchy would be entitled to the entire revenue of the Crown Estate? Or was that part of the Restoration deal; restoration of a figurehead Monarch and ‘state ownership’ of the Crown Estates?

It is an interesting question; how does any large landowner end-up with their estate?

Anyway, as I said, I’m not an anti-monarchist…

…and if the Civil List is only £8million per year I think that the Monarchy is worth every penny of it!

Using this strange “payment = ownership” idea, that means that every boss, who pays wages, owns the staff in his company; the government pays my pension, so I’m owned by the government (actually, that sounds about right.)
Where the whole premise falls down, is when you examine the Civil List; neither Charles, his wife, William, Harry, nor Kate take a penny from the Queen’s allowance, since they’re paid from the Duchy of Cornwall’s finances.

On the DJ’s issue itself I’m content that, had they been able to see the future and the tragic events surrounding this nurse, they’d never have made the phone call.

My view is that there is no work-related issue that should have been significant enough to propel this woman to devastate her children in the way she has…at the end of the day it was her decision to end her life and no-one elses. If she was of such a fragile mental state she should have been under professional care regardless…especially if responsible for children.

All that said it is my strong hope that this death might just make the next ‘entertainer’, aiming for a cheap laugh at someone elses expense, pause for thought for a minute to consider the potential ramifications of their actions.

….and I too would have no objection to Williams first born girl being called Jacintha…a pretty name even if it wasn’t a show of basic human empathy!.

How far back do you want to go in history CD?. Go back to the Magna Carta and beyond there is a chain of crown ownership stretching back centuries. I think its frankly ludicrous to try and make out this is some gross larceny forced on the public!.

Since the 18th century the revenues from those estates has been going into the public purse anyway…seems a bit of a redundancy to pry them off the ‘evil’ monarchy to do…er….just the same thing with them!. Save for the fact it would give the republicans more grounds to whine about the civil list….though at a roughly 20 to 1 annual ratio of money going in to the Treasury as opposed to coming out they’ll be a while waiting for the ‘scroungers’ label to fit!.

Actually, if one can step back from the mob fury, the humanitarian thing to do would be to keep a close eye on the two radio presenters, whose mental state may well be as fragile as the late nurse.

I couldn’t give a damn about the mental state of those two idiots. I sincerely hope that the pair of them, will give a thought to those two kids and their father, on Christmas Day, and on every Christmas Day thereafter. I’m sure the nurses family will remember them. This thoughtless pair must have been conscious of the fact, that a cheap prank such as this, could very well land somebody in trouble. Sadly for them, instead of getting a cheap laugh, it cost an innocent life, and if there’s any justice, it’ll cost them their jobs.

If my views make me a member of the mob, I’ll live with that, no problem.

Last I checked Crown Estates put about £240mn a year into the economy and the Civil List barely stacked up to £8mn…

Bit of a moot point isn’t it; how exactly did the monarchy gain possession of the Crown Estates?

I’m no anti-monarchist, I think most of the Royal Family earn absolutely every penny that they are paid, but I think the Crown Estates revenue argument is spurious.

work continually to raise the profile of the country in commercial and diplomacy terms

Here here, the British property industry would be even more flaky than it is currently if it wasn’t for the Royal’s close links with the Qataris. Just one example.

Benyboy

It sounds like you are yet another individual who doesnt know that Crown Estates profits go into the Treasury and not to the monarchy. The Monarchy instead take a payment called the Civil List. Last I checked Crown Estates put about £240mn a year into the economy and the Civil List barely stacked up to £8mn. You pay their way do you?.

They put in twenty times what they get out, work continually to raise the profile of the country in commercial and diplomacy terms, serve in the forces and, in your view, are still fair game for any kind of public dissection that will satisfy your tawdry little needs for entertainment?. Honestly?

Another thread on here has commented on the degradation of UK society. Thanks for highlighting the kind of narrow-minded selfishness that is the real problem we face so starkly.

I do not think people should be so quick to judge the DJ`s. As has been said, we own the royal family and we have every right to use them for our amusement…

Those that made the prank call were Australian…..do they ‘own’ the Royal Family?

If it’s a girl, maybe England will be ruled by Queen Jacintha I in 25 years time…

England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland! 😉

Actually, if one can step back from the mob fury, the humanitarian thing to do would be to keep a close eye on the two radio presenters, whose mental state may well be as fragile as the late nurse.

If one perceives that the critical contempt of the whole world is upon you, behaviour become unpredictale. Everyone has a breaking point.

If it’s a girl, maybe England will be ruled by Queen Jacintha I in 25 years time…

Royal celebrity figure, media hysteria, death, public fury fueled by media.

We have been here before. RIP the nurse.

Poor baby not even yet born, and already there is death in the narrative.