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Preservation Heroes – Who would you induct in the HALL of FAME and GRATITUDE?

Okay, so we’ve lost a lot – airframed crash and archives destroyed, but due to the efforts of a minority we have a motley collection of airframes and other artefacts that make up our national and regional collections. But who would you recommend to be inducted in a hypothetical HALL of FAME and GRATITUDE?

I would like to recommend Tony Agar for his restoration of Mosquito HJ711, which he created from numerous parts – recovered or bought from various sources. This aircraft took over 20 years to recreate.

So, who is your hero?

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By: Steve T - 22nd March 2005 at 20:14

Hi all–weighing in from Canada, so teetering on the Yank/Brit fulcrum! :rolleyes:

In no particular order and certainly not an exhaustive list…just off the top of my head:

Peter Thomas
Bill Baird (and Walter Goldsmith)
Ed Maloney and family
Earl Reinert
Frank Tallman and Paul Mantz
Richard Shuttleworth
Cole Palen
Lloyd Nolen & co
Wes Agnew
Harry Whereatt
Stan and Byron Reynolds
David Tallichet
Ernie V. Simmons
Walter and Peggy Soplata
Gen Henry “Hap” Arnold (“save one of each”)

…and a bunch of others I haven’t happened to think of at the moment!

Cheers

Steve T

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By: RPSmith - 22nd March 2005 at 15:40

Was that Sqn Ldr ‘Jacko’ Jackson who used to fly the BBMF Lancaster?

No – the Sqdn Ldr Jackson at Old Warden would have been far too old (he is probably long gone now) I think he retired as Manager of Shuttleworth’s in the mid 1970s when David Ogilvy took over the reigns.

Roger Smith.

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By: st170dw - 21st March 2005 at 22:26

Simple for me – anyone who keeps a historic aircraft in a flying or potentially flying state.

Those that don’t fly are projects for the future, and those that do provide joy and a sense of rememberence for those that are fortunate enough to witness them flying.

Even if those that fly are not displayed as and when we would like they are still preserved. A reclusive aircraft is better than a pile of tin cans on a supermarket shelf in my opinion.

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By: Seafuryfan - 21st March 2005 at 20:54

Was that Sqn Ldr ‘Jacko’ Jackson who used to fly the BBMF Lancaster?

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By: RPSmith - 21st March 2005 at 18:28

“Anyone remember the name of the engineer at Old Warden who pre-dated CM?”
Andy, before Chris Morris was Wally Berry and before him Malcolm Frasier. Malcolm emigrated to New Zealand about 30 years ago to work for MoTAT. Manager at Shuttleworths in the 60’s and 70’s was Sqdn Ldr Jackson who, like Allen Wheeler, had known Richard Shuttleworth before the war.
Another engineer I remember at Old Warden was the late Bert Etheridge who restored (amongst others) the LVG.
Roger Smith.

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By: Eddie - 12th March 2005 at 18:37

My nominations would be:-
Neville Franklin, Charles Waterfall, Peter Green, Peter Thomas and Peter Arnold. That reminds me we havn’t seen recent pictures of his Seafire F46 for a while

Hi Robert,

I believe Mr Arnold parted with his Seafire project (along with the Mk.XII project) a couple of years ago. There are of course people here who know rather more about this than I do!

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By: Avro's Finest - 12th March 2005 at 18:23

Avros finest, that John Wayne walk was nowt to do with the bike but more like you had s78t yourself and as for someone seeing you working again don’t make me larrrrfffffff 🙂 🙂 the boys won 2-1 today

Who woke you up DIGBY!!!!!!!!!!!

2-1 good old boys…….. See ya Monday

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By: DIGBY - 12th March 2005 at 18:13

Avros finest, that John Wayne walk was nowt to do with the bike but more like you had s78t yourself and as for someone seeing you working again don’t make me larrrrfffffff 🙂 🙂 the boys won 2-1 today

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By: Robert Whitton - 12th March 2005 at 10:30

My nominations would be:-
Neville Franklin, Charles Waterfall, Peter Green, Peter Thomas and Peter Arnold. That reminds me we havn’t seen recent pictures of his Seafire F46 for a while

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By: agent86 - 12th March 2005 at 09:39

Wheres Mr.Ed Maloney?

OK guys,I know that he’s a Yank and so he might not be as obvious to you on that side of the pond but on this side ,I feel that there is no one who compares to Mr. Ed Maloney ,the founder of the Planes of Fame air museum at Chino airport in Chino,California.He has singlehandedly saved a large number of aircraft that exist nowhere else in the world and others almost nowhere else.Such as The Northrup N-9M,The worlds only flying Northrup flying wing,He located and aquired the only 2 P-26’s in existence,one of which went to the U.S.airforce museum.The only 100% original flying A6m zero with its original Sakae radial engine.The largest collection of surviving japanese WWII aircraft in the world.Other rarities include the RyanFireball,BellP-59,Douglas Skystreak,Messerschmitt Me-262,He 162 and the list goes on and on and on.He collected most of these planes when most people considered them nothing but junk.He had to move them and stash them in numerous locations over the years as his financial situation worsened or improved, until he was able to locate them to Chino airport,where they are now appreciated for the priceless objects that they are.Mr. Maloney is one of my heros and I feel that the Warbird community owes him a big thank you for his determination and efforts . Tim.

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By: Rocketeer - 12th March 2005 at 02:20

I have a love/hate relationship with the editors of both Flypast and Aeroplane Monthly – for not shouting loud enough (being more vocal) and in not being more critical at official policy and indifference. But they do serve, albeit the converted…

I would also nominate Ken Ellis’ predecessor who was killed on the job.

Ken’s predecessor was Mike Twite, a lovely chap, sadly lost (with other preservation stalwarts) in the crash of the Varsity.

I often quote Mike’s originality quote (when asked what is an original car or aircraft)…..’The axe that killed Mary Queen of Scots is the original axe, it has had three new handles and a new blade but it is still original’…..top bloke, sorely missed.

Ken certainly does far more for aircraft preservation than most (both thru’ Flypast and in his ‘spare’ time). I am surprised he has not got an MBE winging its way his way!

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By: Seafuryfan - 12th March 2005 at 00:17

I think the gentlemans name was Don Sigourney (sp?), the Chief for many years for the RNHF. A real character.

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By: Phillip Rhodes - 11th March 2005 at 18:14

In addition to the aforementioned I would nominate Ken Ellis for contribution to and support of grass roots preservation.

I have a love/hate relationship with the editors of both Flypast and Aeroplane Monthly – for not shouting loud enough (being more vocal) and in not being more critical at official policy and indifference. But they do serve, albeit the converted…

I would also nominate Ken Ellis’ predecessor who was killed on the job.

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By: Dave Homewood - 11th March 2005 at 11:37

Just while a few here mention the engineers of Shuttleworth in earlier days, does anyone know much about Malcolm Frazer? I read he was with the collection till the mid 1970’s when he then came to NZ to become head of the Motat Aviation Division. He had hoped to get a number of the Motat aircraft flying, and I can only assum that it may have been his vision that started what resulted decades later in their Ryan STM taking flight. It was the only one to do so, and is based at Ardmore. Did anyone here know him? Is he still around? Just curious.

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By: Rocketeer - 11th March 2005 at 11:21

Howard Hughes

For providing for the preservation of the HK-1 “Spruce Goose”.

Hercules if you please! Spruce Goose was mighty unflattering and not liked by the great man. 🙂

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By: Ron Cuskelly - 11th March 2005 at 09:48

Howard Hughes

For providing for the preservation of the HK-1 “Spruce Goose”.

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By: Avro's Finest - 10th March 2005 at 22:48

Steve
worry not.
AG and I have been exchanging PM’s and as usual realise we both agree on much more than we disagree and we know lots of people too.
See, we don’t need moderators on historic.
Great Forum.
Andy

Fair play..

See ya soon.

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By: Hatton - 10th March 2005 at 22:34

Stewart
if you carry on with the good work you’ve started there will always be a place for you!! 😉

ill second that, critical I may be of those missing punctuation marks but not of your passion for old aircraft! 🙂

my nomination, a couple of chaps called Harold and Fred and of course their brother Christopher who started it all off in the most important way of all.

best regards, steve

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By: Avro's Finest - 10th March 2005 at 22:09

Bikes very nearly did him as well……

How are those spuds??

I don’t like to talk about it!
Lets say, my John Wayne walk is getting better.

I’ll see you in the morning. You little s£*t

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By: bentwingbomber - 10th March 2005 at 21:51

Avro’s Finest

…what a chap.

He does bikes as well I believe.

Bikes very nearly did him as well……

How are those spuds??

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