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Thousands of years ago i purchased a set of, Sept 1958 pilots notes for the RAF Scottish Aviation TWIN PIONEER C.C.1 (Dont know what that stands for) They came in a heavy duty clear plastic holder with a thick black plastic beading round the edge. there is also a metal eyelet at the open end.the notes contain no amendments or alterations at all but have on front cover Flt.Lt. Walmsley. I noticed in Flypast (Feb 2006) there is a Flt.Lt. Harry Walmsley who flew with 611 Sqdrn in 1948 could it possibly be the same man ? moving on from 611?…………………Talk about clutching at straws!…………. Would this have been fitted in the cockpit? if so whereabouts?

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By: Scramble Bill - 9th March 2006 at 23:18

Reading the notes,quote; The aircraft is basically designed for communication duties in areas of limited take-off and landing distances. In the communications role 16 seats are provided in the cabin.The aircraft can also be converted for operation in any of the following roles- Paratrooping ,Casualty evacuation ,freighting and supply dropping ,Aerial photography ,Bombing.
Interestingly it also states , No information regarding ditching qualities is available, but owing to the fixed undercarriage it is probable that the ditching characteristics will be poor !!

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By: jeepman - 9th March 2006 at 22:55

RAF Scottish Aviation TWIN PIONEER C.C.1 (Dont know what that stands for)

The functional prefix is:

CC = Transport and communications

eg Beagle Bassett CC1 or BAe 146 CC2

Interesting that the Twin Pin was classified as a “communications” aircraft. I always assumed it was just a light transport.

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By: archieraf - 9th March 2006 at 19:24

I wonder if it might have been this Harry Walmsley? Quote below from this page http://www.rafweb.org/Biographies/BennettD.htm

Citation for the award of the Distinguished Flying Medal.
1114164 Sergeant Harry WALMSLEY, No.10 Squadron.

One night in April, 1942, Wing Commander Bennett and Sergeant Walmsley were .the captain and second pilot respectively of an aircraft which attacked the German naval base in the Trondheim fiord. In spite of a fierce defensive barrage, the attack was carried out at an extremely low level. The aircraft was hit by shell-fire and, later, burst into flames. Wing Commander Bennett and Sergeant Walmsley were forced to escape by parachute but both landed safely in occupied territory. Both Wing Commander Bennett and Sergeant Walmsley displayed excellent resource and, after escaping from German soldiers and police, they eventually reached Swedish territory after a most arduous and trying journey across snow-clad mountains. Throughout, both Wing Commander Bennett and Sergeant Walmsley displayed courage, initiative and devotion to duty of the highest order.”

(London Gazette – 16 Jun 1942)

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By: Scramble Bill - 9th March 2006 at 19:20

Thanks for reply, one of those questions that will never be answered i suppose!….i have many items with names on them, its so frustrating not knowing for sure who things belonged to !

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By: Rlangham - 9th March 2006 at 19:11

611 Squadron, in 1948, was flying with Spitfires, replacing them with Meteors in 1951 and was disbanded in 1957, so theres a good chance he could have been moved to a Twin Pin when the squadron disbanded, although personally would have thought they would have kept him on fighters, unless he chose to fly transports/pilots were badly needed for transports

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